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Scanning bonus on covops vs. astero
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Brother Javelin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-27 15:25:11 UTC
Hello,

I need some help on grasping the cumulative bonus of 5 times 10% - what does it come to in total and in comparison with the asteros 37,5%?

Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#2 - 2015-01-27 17:58:50 UTC
5 times 10 is 50.
The Cyno NamedDino
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-01-27 18:03:58 UTC
Indeed. 5*10 is 50%. That is 12.5% more on the whole, or 33.333% more bonus than that from the Astero.
Hulk Miner
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-01-27 18:06:56 UTC
Covert Ops bonuses (per skill level):
10% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength

In comparison to the 37.5% bonus of the Asteros the covert ops is 12.5% better.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2015-01-27 18:12:42 UTC
bonuses in eve are usually multiplicative not additive.

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The Cyno NamedDino
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-01-27 18:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: The Cyno NamedDino
Actually, they are typically additive. The minority are multiplicative.

Edit: And those that are multiplicative are always (or at least nearly always. Going off the top of my head) for reductions.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2015-01-27 18:30:20 UTC
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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-01-27 18:49:47 UTC
The Cyno NamedDino wrote:
Actually, they are typically additive. The minority are multiplicative.

Edit: And those that are multiplicative are always (or at least nearly always. Going off the top of my head) for reductions.


no, most are multiplicative

skills and ship bonuses are exceptions since you're just gaining more in one particular bonus.

if you add a ship bonus to a module bonus, this would be multiplicative.

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-01-27 19:55:22 UTC
The Astero has the bonus to scaning that a T1 scan frigate would have with racial frigate trained to V. Training Covert Ops to IV or higher gets you a better scan bonus in a Cov Ops frigate. The major benefits of the Astero are in fitting, drones, and the undeniable fact that it looks sexy.
Quanah Comanche
#10 - 2015-01-27 20:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Quanah Comanche
SOE ships look like The Red Cross.

Covops have the highest scan bonus.
The Cyno NamedDino
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-01-27 22:15:00 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
The Cyno NamedDino wrote:
Actually, they are typically additive. The minority are multiplicative.

Edit: And those that are multiplicative are always (or at least nearly always. Going off the top of my head) for reductions.


no, most are multiplicative

skills and ship bonuses are exceptions since you're just gaining more in one particular bonus.

if you add a ship bonus to a module bonus, this would be multiplicative.


And since we are discussing ship bonuses in this thread, then I am glad that you actually agree with me.
Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-01-28 05:46:02 UTC
Covert ops ships are also cheaper. Just saying.
Ed MarKeen
East Domain Inc.
#13 - 2015-01-28 12:19:35 UTC
Brylan Grey wrote:
Covert ops ships are also cheaper. Just saying.


Is also much more easy to fit an Expanded Probe Launcher.
Nalia White
Tencus
#14 - 2015-01-28 14:38:50 UTC
The Cyno NamedDino wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
The Cyno NamedDino wrote:
Actually, they are typically additive. The minority are multiplicative.

Edit: And those that are multiplicative are always (or at least nearly always. Going off the top of my head) for reductions.


no, most are multiplicative

skills and ship bonuses are exceptions since you're just gaining more in one particular bonus.

if you add a ship bonus to a module bonus, this would be multiplicative.


And since we are discussing ship bonuses in this thread, then I am glad that you actually agree with me.


if you derp it that way ship bonuses are always additive and never multiplicative good sir so you were wrong with saying these bonuses were "mostly" additive when they are "always" additive. Even the reductions on ship boni (like rof or missile explosion radius) is additive.

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Trajan Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-01-29 08:25:05 UTC
Does there exist a list about such thing or do I have to dig in the code by myself like in the "ol´dark times"?

The Cyno NamedDino
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-01-29 15:54:06 UTC
Nalia White wrote:


if you derp it that way ship bonuses are always additive and never multiplicative good sir so you were wrong with saying these bonuses were "mostly" additive when they are "always" additive. Even the reductions on ship boni (like rof or missile explosion radius) is additive.


I didnt derp it any way. This thread is discussing ship bonuses, and I therefore based my comment on ship bonuses. Why would you make blanket statements when we are discussing something specific? Also, I clearly remember several bonuses being multiplicative when applying to reductions for certain modules and such, although I cannot remember which is why I stated it the way I did.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-01-30 15:56:35 UTC
The Cyno NamedDino wrote:
Nalia White wrote:


if you derp it that way ship bonuses are always additive and never multiplicative good sir so you were wrong with saying these bonuses were "mostly" additive when they are "always" additive. Even the reductions on ship boni (like rof or missile explosion radius) is additive.


I didnt derp it any way. This thread is discussing ship bonuses, and I therefore based my comment on ship bonuses. Why would you make blanket statements when we are discussing something specific? Also, I clearly remember several bonuses being multiplicative when applying to reductions for certain modules and such, although I cannot remember which is why I stated it the way I did.

I'm too lazy to even try to sort out this mess of BS in my head.

I'd rather do fun stuff, like exploding spaceships and stuff

Thumbs up for the Astero, though, sexy sexy ship.
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#18 - 2015-01-31 19:42:40 UTC
The difference in scan bonus is relatively minor. Go by cost and your intended use!

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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#19 - 2015-01-31 20:02:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeremiah Saken
Covops, max skills, sisters set - 113,438 sensor strenght
astero, max skills, sisters set - 113,022 sensor strenght

can anybody confirm? I think my EFT is outdated.

Edit: forget to add there's a gravity capacitor t1 rig on astero.

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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#20 - 2015-01-31 20:58:54 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Covops, max skills, sisters set - 113,438 sensor strenght
astero, max skills, sisters set - 113,022 sensor strenght

can anybody confirm? I think my EFT is outdated.

Edit: forget to add there's a gravity capacitor t1 rig on astero.


EXACTLY. People harp about the scan difference but at max skills the difference is under 0.5% relatively speaking!

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