EVE General Discussion

Okay, so what follows is entirely my personal opinion.

It's not a case of not "catering to the tearfilled entitled", it's a case of us staying true to the core of what EVE was built on.

Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.

Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.

While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.

The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.

True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.

The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.

EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.

EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.

EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.

Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.

EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.

Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.

That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.

Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience.

...Yeah but a license plate number is.

Ok, you can have your 30 minute response time, if every time you suicide gank your character spends 3-5 years in prison afterwards

Yeah, I wasn't the one trying to make that leap there chap.

Whatever man, how are things?

Its rather easy to understand and somewhat harder to pull off. The bowhead that got highlighted more or less tackled himself when he logged off with aggression.

The Outlaws who use their mains have my respect, for the path they choose limits their choices in gameplay. If ever there was a more (dis)honorable profession

my wife is getting out of the hospital soon

Oh boo hoo. Not really. And last I checked you can still use a cloak at -10 sec status. Ever tried cloaking in highsec of the opposing faction?

You cant even dock at a contested station of the opposing faction. Come on man, try a little

Being a ganker should mean you live your life in low security space, and risk something to come to high security to do something bad.

"Excuse me if I thought this is EVE Online where the game is supposed to take a modicum of effort." - It's only supposed to be harder if you're a miner, mission runner, FW pilot, industrialist, hauler, etc. If you PvP or gank, it needs to be easier. Especially if you are PVP'ing or Ganking one of the above. Didn't you know that? :-)

Uh, you do realize that there are no contested stations in high-sec, right? When you're in high-sec and in FW, you can dock at any station just fine. I see plenty of Minmatar Militia guys docked in the Amarr hub on my alt.


I have two questions:

1. Is the difficulty for, say, a miner, set by the game, or by other players?
2. Is the difficulty for, say, a ganker, set by the game, or by other players?

In both cases, let's state that training skills isn't difficulty, because it's simply a time constant in the game.

Since when? Oh, are talking about mechanics you don't understand again?