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Dev blog: Coming To EVE In Tiamat

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Stefan Silviu
Rise Of Exiles
Shadow Ultimatum
#61 - 2015-01-30 15:50:18 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
New ship? Check

But still not the new Dominix hull that was presented to us at Fanfest last year.

Very disappointing that no room could be found for it in such a small update.

How much longer must we wait?


http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/csm/Meetings/summit/CSM9-WS-D4.pdf bottom of page 5, top of page 6

who represents you, baby?

m

celestis should be the first ship on cuting board
when i see that ship i want to puke
Slappy Andven
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#62 - 2015-01-30 16:08:11 UTC
Interfectorem Tacet wrote:
Hmm....so if FF is 'disabled' meaning concord will intervene if pvp intra corp is initiated does this mean that people who want to alt web their freighters and stuff will have to have FF enabled or their alt will be concorded and sec hit given?

If so will CCP further enforce their rules on alt recycling? As this will surely increase the number of alts getting biomassed and a new toon with a new name (to avoid the 'recycle' rule) happening.


Wouldn't a 1v1 duel solve that problem?

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Slappy Andven

CEO Natural Born Killas
Oraac Ensor
#63 - 2015-01-30 16:09:45 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
New ship? Check

But still not the new Dominix hull that was presented to us at Fanfest last year.

Very disappointing that no room could be found for it in such a small update.

How much longer must we wait?


http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/csm/Meetings/summit/CSM9-WS-D4.pdf bottom of page 5, top of page 6

who represents you, baby?

m

Thanks for your efforts, but what's to cut? It was presented to Fanfest as a finished product.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#64 - 2015-01-30 16:09:54 UTC
Slappy Andven wrote:
Interfectorem Tacet wrote:
Hmm....so if FF is 'disabled' meaning concord will intervene if pvp intra corp is initiated does this mean that people who want to alt web their freighters and stuff will have to have FF enabled or their alt will be concorded and sec hit given?

If so will CCP further enforce their rules on alt recycling? As this will surely increase the number of alts getting biomassed and a new toon with a new name (to avoid the 'recycle' rule) happening.


Wouldn't a 1v1 duel solve that problem?



yes it does
Atreides 47
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2015-01-30 22:14:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Atreides 47
Svipul is just Fugly. Not only its ugly as crap it have Venture frigate model base. Why did your designers ripped off Venture frigate CCP ?
Just compare these 2 images :
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/63965/1/EVE_Online_Retribution_OREFrigate.jpg +
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dptZj_ev3_w/maxresdefault.jpg
What the hell. You don't have enough weed after police visit to create good spaceship designs ?
Same crap with Typhoon, you screwed up unique Matar design to replace it with generic caldari ****, because Typhoon have front part that looks like drake or tengu :
New Typhoon - http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Qlyc9WocNXU/0.jpg
Parts look like - https://serpentinelogic.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/tengu1.png http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/62866/1/Drake.jpg

Bring old Typhoon back bitches ! At least it doesn't look like generic crap. http://members.shaw.ca/ganjalabs/images/EVE%20Backgrounds/Minmatar/Typhoon.jpg

Your designers suck arse and Fozee only wait for a chance to nerf Minmatar ships.
First Typhoon and now this .... thats enough. Either your designers need to work properly on Minmatar design as good as before or you need new designers.

Long Live the Fighters !

CCP and nerfs - http://i.imgur.com/MejTGfL.jpg
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#66 - 2015-01-30 22:59:34 UTC
And look whats coming in Tiamat..

nothing about AFK cloaking..

but they still are listening right?? right????

nuf said
Madd Adda
#67 - 2015-01-30 23:53:34 UTC
Milla Goodpussy wrote:


nothing about AFK cloaking..



and here it comes, the complaints about how "afk cloaking is ruining the game and i don't feel safe please nerf!!!"

between this and people saying "get players out of npc corps" no wonder CCP is silent on the matter. If they want to change it, fine, but only when they feel that they have a viable solution.

Carebear extraordinaire
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#68 - 2015-01-31 00:03:58 UTC
Madd Adda wrote:
Milla Goodpussy wrote:


nothing about AFK cloaking..



and here it comes, the complaints about how "afk cloaking is ruining the game and i don't feel safe please nerf!!!"

between this and people saying "get players out of npc corps" no wonder CCP is silent on the matter. If they want to change it, fine, but only when they feel that they have a viable solution.



CCP ignores that fact that a good portion of the community wants it dealt it.. the other side is terrified if they do finally decide to deal with it.. either way it's a problem cause ccp refuses to deal with it cause it may only hurt their friends.
Kurosaki Rukia
The House of Flying Stabbers
#69 - 2015-01-31 00:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Kurosaki Rukia
It's a sorry state of affairs if it's only awoxers who are ashamed of CPP for the upcoming change. Eve, traditionally, was always a game that rewarded those who picked their friends with care, and punished those who were careless with their due diligence before joining a corp or letting members in. It seems to me that with every new release CPP are selling EVE's soul. More handholding and rounded corners, and all the best qualities of Eve fade away. Right now trust actually means something. I will be sorry to see the future in eve where trust is meaningless and every choice is safe.
Madd Adda
#70 - 2015-01-31 02:58:03 UTC
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
Madd Adda wrote:
Milla Goodpussy wrote:


nothing about AFK cloaking..



and here it comes, the complaints about how "afk cloaking is ruining the game and i don't feel safe please nerf!!!"

between this and people saying "get players out of npc corps" no wonder CCP is silent on the matter. If they want to change it, fine, but only when they feel that they have a viable solution.



CCP ignores that fact that a good portion of the community wants it dealt it.. the other side is terrified if they do finally decide to deal with it.. either way it's a problem cause ccp refuses to deal with it cause it may only hurt their friends.


yes, and i bet jump fatigue was what a good portion of the community wanted too. CCP isn't obligated to cater to any of us, it's their game. I see nothing wrong with AFK cloaking, it encourages paranoia in people.

Carebear extraordinaire
Madd Adda
#71 - 2015-01-31 03:05:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Madd Adda
Kurosaki Rukia wrote:
It's a sorry state of affairs if it's only awoxers who are ashamed of CPP for the upcoming change. Eve, traditionally, was always a game that rewarded those who picked their friends with care, and punished those who were careless with their due diligence before joining a corp or letting members in. It seems to me that with every new release CPP are selling EVE's soul. More handholding and rounded corners, and all the best qualities of Eve fade away. Right now trust actually means something. I will be sorry to see the future in eve where trust is meaningless and every choice is safe.


seems to me they're trying cut newer players some slack . Watching new to eve players getting crushed by "corpmates" without warning is very demoralizing and doesn't encourage players to work past their beginnings. Ganking, theft, bumping ( and now hyperdunking) are all still there and available for you to do. Awoxers aren't dead, just need to pick their corps more carefully. The FF option is enabled by default, so I bet there will be a lot of corps with it still enabled post release.

Carebear extraordinaire
Nakovi Kitsune
No Pressure.
#72 - 2015-01-31 14:44:31 UTC
Atreides 47 wrote:
Svipul is just Fugly. Not only its ugly as crap it have Venture frigate model base. Why did your designers ripped off Venture frigate CCP ?
Just compare these 2 images :
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/63965/1/EVE_Online_Retribution_OREFrigate.jpg +
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dptZj_ev3_w/maxresdefault.jpg
What the hell. You don't have enough weed after police visit to create good spaceship designs ?
Same crap with Typhoon, you screwed up unique Matar design to replace it with generic caldari ****, because Typhoon have front part that looks like drake or tengu :
New Typhoon - http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Qlyc9WocNXU/0.jpg
Parts look like - https://serpentinelogic.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/tengu1.png http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/62866/1/Drake.jpg

Bring old Typhoon back bitches ! At least it doesn't look like generic crap. http://members.shaw.ca/ganjalabs/images/EVE%20Backgrounds/Minmatar/Typhoon.jpg

Your designers suck arse and Fozee only wait for a chance to nerf Minmatar ships.
First Typhoon and now this .... thats enough. Either your designers need to work properly on Minmatar design as good as before or you need new designers.


Where do people get this sense of entitlement? Go play another game if you hate the devs so much? If you really want change, learn how to speak constructively. Anybody who sees the little tantrum you just threw is going to think you're 10 years old and start laughing.
Nakovi Kitsune
No Pressure.
#73 - 2015-01-31 14:46:37 UTC
I'm interested in this part:

"New NPCs with new abilities

Smarter and more cunning adversaries will begin to appear after the release of Tiamat. You should make sure that you keep an eye on what they're up to, and make sure that you stay locked and loaded whenever you come into contact with them. Things are moving in New Eden, be sure to follow in-game news and uncover these features in-game."

Has this been explained in more detail anywhere else? Where these NPCs are, and in what situations they appear?
Varve
Oredustries
#74 - 2015-01-31 16:24:56 UTC
"Following up from the revamped user interface released in Rhea, Tiamat brings a few new user interface icons and more interface elements are themed by the selected color theme."

No, please no. (Revamped..... we'll just say changed for now until we all concur its an improvement)

Can we just have our colour sliders back first before you start to deviate even further away from player choice/customisation?

I still don't understand why you would give us LESS options than we had before. It's still irritating the crap out of me that I can't have MY UI coloured the way I want it.

Move forwards not backwards!


On the up side the additions to the PBR look great.

New Corporation based stuff......wait a minute that looks like more customisation there....move this team and the guy who made the new star map onto the UI!

More sounds is never a bad thing.

Just give us back the colour sliders!

"...You could still be a hero!" "I'd rather be a protagonist."
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2015-02-01 01:02:50 UTC
Nakovi Kitsune wrote:
I'm interested in this part:

"New NPCs with new abilities

Smarter and more cunning adversaries will begin to appear after the release of Tiamat. You should make sure that you keep an eye on what they're up to, and make sure that you stay locked and loaded whenever you come into contact with them. Things are moving in New Eden, be sure to follow in-game news and uncover these features in-game."

Has this been explained in more detail anywhere else? Where these NPCs are, and in what situations they appear?

Some of them are already in game.. the new Sleepers that spawn in normal space.

According to some of the other threads, they are expanding even more on Sisi. In addition to Sansha WH's, and now some new Jove ships.
There's no word on them going back and changing Mission/Encounter or Incursion AI's yet.. but who knows. Also with the talk of their updates to NPC's and such, might mean we will finally get some new mission content. Burners are nice and all, but I'd like more missions, and more variety in then.

Incursions too.. I mean there's no real variety there. Rather than being the same 3 sites over and over shake it up.. more sites, and more variety IN the sites. I say this as a former FC, and Incursion Runner. If you have a fleet with half a clue, they can sleep through the sites. Everyone knows the order to shoot, where to move, what the spawns will be and how to react in the few situations where the spawns can differ.
Nakovi Kitsune
No Pressure.
#76 - 2015-02-01 01:39:32 UTC
Sniper Smith wrote:

Incursions too.. I mean there's no real variety there. Rather than being the same 3 sites over and over shake it up.. more sites, and more variety IN the sites. I say this as a former FC, and Incursion Runner. If you have a fleet with half a clue, they can sleep through the sites. Everyone knows the order to shoot, where to move, what the spawns will be and how to react in the few situations where the spawns can differ.


Could not agree more. Once you know a WH site, it never changes. How hard could it be to at least randomize ship waves and triggers?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#77 - 2015-02-01 06:33:07 UTC
Varve wrote:
I still don't understand why you would give us LESS options than we had before.

(cough) ... Jukebox ... (cough)

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lucas Quaan
DEMONS OF THE HIDDEN MIST
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#78 - 2015-02-01 13:02:53 UTC
Kurosaki Rukia wrote:
It's a sorry state of affairs if it's only awoxers who are ashamed of CPP for the upcoming change. Eve, traditionally, was always a game that rewarded those who picked their friends with care, and punished those who were careless with their due diligence before joining a corp or letting members in. It seems to me that with every new release CPP are selling EVE's soul. More handholding and rounded corners, and all the best qualities of Eve fade away. Right now trust actually means something. I will be sorry to see the future in eve where trust is meaningless and every choice is safe.

It's more a case of "hey, this mechanic is really backwards and unintuitive, lets fix it". You still don't have to trust your corp mates if you don't want to.
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#79 - 2015-02-02 04:36:20 UTC
Nice to see the poor clueless noobs and miners and other such folk thrown a bone every now and then. Don't be afraid to continue removing stupid stuff from the game CCP.

Svipul looks cool too.
Reiisha
#80 - 2015-02-04 12:04:17 UTC
Kurosaki Rukia wrote:
It's a sorry state of affairs if it's only awoxers who are ashamed of CPP for the upcoming change. Eve, traditionally, was always a game that rewarded those who picked their friends with care, and punished those who were careless with their due diligence before joining a corp or letting members in. It seems to me that with every new release CPP are selling EVE's soul. More handholding and rounded corners, and all the best qualities of Eve fade away. Right now trust actually means something. I will be sorry to see the future in eve where trust is meaningless and every choice is safe.


Do please explain how awoxing noobs is in any way helping the game.

Do also please explain how removing awoxing, and ONLY awoxing (through an OPTIONAL CHOICE no less) removes trust from the game in any meaningful way.

To be honest, your vision of EVE can only be achieved when people can only make one character. Not just per account, but per player. THEN you can start playing around with such things, because trust is completely irrelevant if there are literally no consequences whatsoever for one of the involved parties, the issue simply becomes a nuisance and nothing else.

When people can only ever play one character, everything they do is tied to their character and they can't easily get rid of bad rep by rerolling or buying other accounts, hence making trust go both ways rather than it being a one way street.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...