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should CCP get rid of the PLEX system?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#101 - 2015-01-28 23:20:53 UTC
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money. I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA . All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the Isk Sinks the Better.


One of my cats once looked over my shoulder at one of your posts, and he got a nosebleed. I didn't know cats could get nosebleeds.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2015-01-28 23:29:54 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money. I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA . All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the Isk Sinks the Better.


One of my cats once looked over my shoulder at one of your posts, and he got a nosebleed. I didn't know cats could get nosebleeds.

Cats Get Nosebleeds?

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#103 - 2015-01-28 23:34:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money.
Something that is explicitly forbidden; their game, their intellectual property, their rules. If you don't like it you're free to leave and find something that meets your requirements.
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I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA
It's a game, the ROI is measured in fun and being entertained. If neither is present then why are you playing when you don't have to?
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All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the isk and material Sinks the Better.Get Rid Of The Plex!
The solution to your problem is obvious, play a game that meets your requirements instead of one that doesn't.

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2015-01-29 00:03:15 UTC
I am entertained and have alot of Fun especially on these Forums
however nothing wrong In making a little money
I don't mind spending the Plex However i dont Mind getting rid of it Either to get more for my Buck
I assure You Eve will become a better sandbox With me in it because I am The Solution. I am what EVe needs.

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#105 - 2015-01-29 00:18:32 UTC
Solops Crendraven wrote:
I am entertained and have alot of Fun especially on these Forums
So why are you whining? You're getting your desired ROI, just not fiscally.
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however nothing wrong In making a little money
There is when it violates the EULA.
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I don't mind spending the Plex However i dont Mind getting rid of it Either to get more for my Buck
PLEX is CCPs solution to RMT, it enables them to gather income that would otherwise go to gold farmers running bots, income that is spent on improvements to the game among other things
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I assure You Eve will become a better sandbox
Yeah right...
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With me in it because I am The Solution. I am what EVe needs.
You're certainly something, this isn't it.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#106 - 2015-01-29 00:22:09 UTC
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money. I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA . All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the isk and material Sinks the Better.Get Rid Of The Plex!



so you want RMT then?

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2015-01-29 00:30:56 UTC
We can go on Debating and debating Blue to our Faces.
It wont change the Fact That I will remain And the Plex System will be no more.
You think Eve is going to be the same in 30 years from now or even exist ?
All i can say My Role In Eve Either in Real Life or Role Playing I am a Disrupt or and a Agent of Change so all i can say Live With It!

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#108 - 2015-01-29 00:33:36 UTC
Solops Crendraven wrote:
We can go on Debating and debating Blue to our Faces.
It wont change the Fact That I will remain And the Plex System will be no more.
You think Eve is going to be the same in 30 years from now or even exist ?
All i can say My Role In Eve Either in Real Life or Role Playing I am a Disrupt or and a Agent of Change so all i can say Live With It!
Dream on...

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Zyphus Sky
Back Door Probing
#109 - 2015-01-29 00:39:23 UTC
No.
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2015-01-29 12:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Brainless Bimbo
Solops Crendraven wrote:
We can go on Debating and debating Blue to our Faces.
It wont change the Fact That I will remain And the Plex System will be no more.
You think Eve is going to be the same in 30 years from now or even exist ?
All i can say My Role In Eve Either in Real Life or Role Playing I am a Disrupt or and a Agent of Change so all i can say Live With It!

Honestly, when that bus hits you in 3 years time the gene pool will be improved... well that is as likely as your statement when all is said and done

My point is, you do not know the future, any thing can happen but until you can understand that PLEX was bought in to stop real money transactions that undermine the company that is CCP and its product eve, you fail.

All i get from this is your account(´s) are probably flagged as is you IP address(´s) and probally those you interact with as you are promoting real money transfer for virtual objects that are the property of CCP. In words you can understand you are basically saying that someone can come round to your house and just remove your goods and sell them to your neighbor and it will be all fine and dandy with you.

Honestly i bet you think Fox is news, Ayn Rand was a visionary and anyone not you is detritus, there is nothing to debate

already dead, just haven´t fallen over yet....
Commander Cute
Capsuleer Retirement Home
#111 - 2015-01-29 13:44:46 UTC
This thread is absolutely blowing my mind.
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#112 - 2015-01-29 13:47:03 UTC
Commander Cute wrote:
This thread is absolutely blowing my mind.
You're one up on the illiterate troll, you've got a mind to blow P

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#113 - 2015-01-29 15:03:16 UTC
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Solops Crendraven wrote:


My main issue is this up and down economics and not getting my $20 worth if eliminating Plex and sticking to Arum well fix that so be it. I just feel everything is overpriced and ridiculously expensive and on top of it I get a miserly amount isk For the Buck.


You get what the market is willing to give you for a PLEX.

You Find that Ok?So Your telling you rather get your plex in a market that pretty much rips you off Plex vs 2billion fixed rate you can buy directly from CCP than shenanigans from players.

Im sorry as a Dev I wouldnt be Proud of a game That encourages Fraud and theft amongst players thats not Hardcore thats Criminal why would people want to subscribe to that.

And the craziest thing is I have to ask my Bank to Unblock Eve Online In The RW so i can buy plex every month because they flagged it as a Fraudulent company thats insane.

If they gave me back my Thousands of dollars i invested in this game trust me i wouldve unsubed along time ago.


Yes I find it completely OK as you are trading something with in-game value for something else in game. If you are not happy about the rate you get out of it, then don't participate in such market. Nobody force you to buy PLEX to get ISK or use PLEX to sub your account.
Gilan Isana
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#114 - 2015-01-29 20:32:04 UTC
[quote=waflat maplat]should CCP get rid of the PLEX system?

NO

one word :

HYPER-INFLATION
Sugar Smacks
Khanid Royal Navy
Khanid.
#115 - 2015-01-29 20:47:07 UTC
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money. I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA . All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the isk and material Sinks the Better.Get Rid Of The Plex!


The problem with your thinking is the money then does not go to CCP.

There are several games with online websites that sell their virtual currency for money. These sites do NOTHING for the parent company of that game. Usually they just take away the legit income they had coming.

Games need income sinks, if you just accumulated money forever that would get too boring.

Next time try thinking about the game first and then yourself so you look like less of a selfish ***hole.
Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2015-01-29 20:58:12 UTC
Here we Go again Roll

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2015-01-29 21:00:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Solops Crendraven
Sugar Smacks wrote:
Solops Crendraven wrote:
Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money. I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA . All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the isk and material Sinks the Better.Get Rid Of The Plex!


The problem with your thinking is the money then does not go to CCP.

There are several games with online websites that sell their virtual currency for money. These sites do NOTHING for the parent company of that game. Usually they just take away the legit income they had coming.

Games need income sinks, if you just accumulated money forever that would get too boring.

Next time try thinking about the game first and then yourself so you look like less of a selfish ***hole.
When Im The paying Customer My needs come before any Corp. Im Not a Charity.
Even Though I was one Of the Donors for Plex for Good. Im starting to have second thoughts on this community.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#118 - 2015-01-29 21:27:06 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2015-01-29 21:42:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

Im actually a Anti-intellectualist So your Preaching to the choir.
if he was so smart he wouldnt of committed sucide.
And He would've probably debated against me to death on CCP Getting rid Of the Plex.

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Leoric Firesword
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#120 - 2015-01-29 22:53:56 UTC
nope, because I plex my account.

if they took that away I'd quit playing, not because I can't afford to pay for the game, but because I don't really feel like it.