Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Certainly hope it's dead.

Sorry, but if I ever pin a pilot in station then I want him to have nothing to do but undock. I don't want him re-arranging his knick-knack shelf or browsing new doily pattersn. You get to spin clockwise or counter clockwise - that's it.

There are a million games out there where you can decorate you character, it's house and horse. This isn't that game.

[bangs pots and pans, throws flash bang grenade, stomps on cat, sets off car alarm..... and so on]

Uh, what makes you think they don't already have enough to amuse themselves with already?

To be honest, if they don't find an outlet in the game, they will just minimize that window and go elsewhere to work out those needs.

If anything, this would open new ways to keep players invested inside the game.

Don't worry though, you won't suffer losses of serious pilots in space.
They were either going to be there or not anyways, EVE pilots are a core group.

Trust me on that, I have seen how they go into other games like world O' Tanks when things are slow, or they simply have no in game options worth their time. This could give them options in game, and keep them more active.

Even though I am here only to shoot space ships, I am not at all opposed to WiS.

I wear my monocle with pride.

Regardless of how I personally feel about WiS, which is an opinion I am deliberately omitting from this post, I never did understand how people can so permanently fail to grasp that spaceship things and avatar things use completely different dev teams even after they've been told time and time again.

Not all of the dev time is separate by any means. The same teams that do modeling work, ships skins, lighting, and other visual effects in space are almost certainly the ones that would be tapped to work on WiS.

And someone's going to be pulled off to do whatever actual coding work is required for the interactive sections of WiS. Plus whatever actual content might be involved.

Do you think these currently non-existent teams will appear out of nowhere?

The smaller the company, the more likely that people are to have a greater deal of cross specialization

Given that to the best of my knowledge there is no significant work being done on WiS, that means that the people that would be used for WiS are either : Not currently employed at CCP, or B: part of another team.

Do you believe if the the time to work on WiS ever rolls around, that they will hire a new set of developers that are somehow already competent in CCP's proprietary systems (I believe the CARBON character creation/modeling/animation system is a CCP exclusive developed for WoD) , or crosstrain existing art and modeling developers from the Art department into being able to work on WiS?

The actual interiors of CQ's and objects in CQ's probably use much of the same modeling and lighting software used in space, allowing faster retaining of existing personnel.

So yeah, I'm neither trolling nor delusional. CCP is a relatively small company. If they have spare developer time available in the Art department, it makes far more sense to train and transfer employee's who are already semi-familiar to the processes than to hire an entirely new set of employees with no experience whatsoever with the character/interior modeling programs, then train them from the ground up.

They are however, both funded from the same, limited pot.

Given the howling that happens anytime someone even mentions that CQ exists, I don't think CCP's going to sideline ships in favor of station interiors.

On the other hand, I wonder just how far you can go with ships before there's really nothing left to develop. We're already seeing the end of useful new roles for ships to fill.

WiS was just an experimental concept for CCP to do a World of Darkness game.

The World of Darkness game failed before it was even produced.

Therefore WiS is a failure and should DIAF.

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We need more FiS enhancements and less WiS crapola.


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And for those saying "you don't have to participate" ... pretty hard to avoid getting ganked by someone using WiS to come into your quarters with a sharp object and evil intent by not participating. They also said something about wandering around in your ship and maybe being able to hijack other ships.

Repeating ... WiS needs to DIAF.

FiS FTW!