Player Features and Ideas Discussion

when mining 3 minutes or about 2 minutes cycle can be a pain,...
i know this idea might seem a little lazy but i still like it as a idea :)
when you ca use the Rock Scanner to see how much is left

so have a shorter cycle time with out getting More yield per second
is the gold here :)

So a Rig like the Higgs Rig where you can only use ONE RIG on your ship

and this rig would give
%50 Reduced cycle Time
%50 Reduced yield

i like to see what you guys thin to this idea :)

Orca doesn't reduce it enough for yuh?

he wants to be able to afk more and waste less cycles

I don't do much mining so this may be why i'm lost but wouldn't this mean you had to be less afk since you now have less time between cycles?

Sure why not.

Options are always good. In fact, this doesn't just necessarily need to be a rig solution (let alone one that costs an outsized amount of calibration points).

Not every miner carries a Survey Scanner (perhaps opting for more defense) and might prefer to not waste cycles on rocks with little ore left (It's not like there is any visual indication - which would be nice btw).

It's funny how those who despise (non-botted) AFK (or Alt-Tabbed) miners and want to gank them are so opposed to anything that could conceivably improve one's ability to go AFK and encourage them therefore to do so, when more AFK mining gives them more opportunities to gank them.

By-the-way, can anyone imagine what would happen to the EVE economy if all the AFK and Alt-Tabbed miners disappeared? It would probably collapse. And far more quickly than gankers like to claim it would if their ganking activities ceased.

P.S. I Alt-Tab mined to type out this post.

Wow. Was there a time when every cycle required an F1? Or did they seriously suggest that it ought to be required? That would turn me (and most people) off of mining faster than getting ganked every day would.

I personally try not to AFK mine, and the only times I might be caught doing it is when I need a bio, a refreshment, or some other unforseen (though quickly addressed) thing comes up that takes me AFK. And even then I'll try to wait till I have a full hold and need to return to station anyway. Otherwise if I'll be gone for more than a couple cycles I will dock up.

In any case that's what I was referring to as AFK miners. Which is probably most of us. Few dock up when they need to take a bio break or grab a drink or let the dog out, etc....

The only other way to AFK mine for greater periods of time without having idle mining lasers would be to bot, or be in a Retriever/Mackinaw with your miners on extra ginormous rocks.

Why is it funny? The New Order detests players that AFK/Alt-tab/bot their way to ISK in the game because we actually think it is bad for the game. We are not mere pirates, but are trying to make the highsec we claim as our own a better place - one with some risk and some interaction.

If the AFKers disappeared? I doubt anyone would notice. Real miners would step up their game as mining would actually worth doing again, and their would be financial incentive for active, organized mining fleets. In short, it would be a better highsec!



Incorrect. Gank 50 miners and see how many of them were AFK - it is easy to tell by the number of pods that float about in the belt for minutes after their ship went poof.

Honestly, I don't have a problem with those that make the rational choice given the current game mechanics to AFK mine. I do have a big problem with those that make the rational choice to AFK mine, get exploded because they were not even playing the game, and then come to the forums complaining the game is broken. But that is neither here-nor-there.

As to this proposal, it just dumbs down mining even further, making a Survey Scanner less useful. Not sure that is what mining really needs at this point. Mining actually needs more ways a smart and active miner can increase their yield with active play, not more warp-to-belt, press-F1, receive-cookie.

I is pulled as a single cycle, single unit. How would this rig work for that?