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Tuketh Sagus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-26 23:11:35 UTC
So... i heard the caldari ceptors are the worst taxis... can someone link me a fit witha good one? When a ship is considered unlockable? If it warps on less than 2 seconds? Also I heard anything eith a signature resoluton above 2613 can instalok... this means lock immediately?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-01-26 23:58:00 UTC
In short:

<2 seconds align is very unlikely to get locked.

There is no such thing as instalocking because of how the server works: that's why <2 seconds align time is effective.


If you're asking because you also want to be the guy locking stuff, scan res around 2.000 is usually enough to lock anything that is lockable (subject to lag etc.).

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#3 - 2015-01-28 14:05:51 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
In short:

<2 seconds align is very unlikely to get locked.

There is no such thing as instalocking because of how the server works: that's why <2 seconds align time is effective.


If you're asking because you also want to be the guy locking stuff, scan res around 2.000 is usually enough to lock anything that is lockable (subject to lag etc.).


2000 is not really enough to catch all you can, with bigger scan resolution you have much better chance to get more targets locked and tackled even there is server ticks Big smile
flaming phantom
Unlimited LTD
#4 - 2015-01-28 14:53:50 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
In short:

<2 seconds align is very unlikely to get locked.

There is no such thing as instalocking because of how the server works: that's why <2 seconds align time is effective.


If you're asking because you also want to be the guy locking stuff, scan res around 2.000 is usually enough to lock anything that is lockable (subject to lag etc.).


2000 is not really enough to catch all you can, with bigger scan resolution you have much better chance to get more targets locked and tackled even there is server ticks Big smile



Up to a certain threshold. More than 2 or 3k is definitely just wasted mods. Essentially, if you have a 1 second targeting time on frigs, then there is no reason to get it smaller because the server ticks are 1Mhz, so even if you could have targeted a ship in half a second, it will take the server 1 second to respond, and if they warp in less than 2 seconds, they are pretty much going to get away (1 second for the server to respond, and then your countdown happens)

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Tuketh Sagus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-01-28 17:03:31 UTC
And about the under 2 seconds...according to eft a caldari ceptor has 2.1 warp time.
Abraham Vyacheslav
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-02-04 20:45:44 UTC
The raptor is actually a terrific taxi. You can get it under 2 second align while also giving it the buffer to survive some smartbombing, if you really feel like driving straight through rancer or something.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-02-04 20:57:22 UTC
flaming phantom wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
In short:

<2 seconds align is very unlikely to get locked.

There is no such thing as instalocking because of how the server works: that's why <2 seconds align time is effective.


If you're asking because you also want to be the guy locking stuff, scan res around 2.000 is usually enough to lock anything that is lockable (subject to lag etc.).


2000 is not really enough to catch all you can, with bigger scan resolution you have much better chance to get more targets locked and tackled even there is server ticks Big smile



Up to a certain threshold. More than 2 or 3k is definitely just wasted mods. Essentially, if you have a 1 second targeting time on frigs, then there is no reason to get it smaller because the server ticks are 1Mhz, so even if you could have targeted a ship in half a second, it will take the server 1 second to respond, and if they warp in less than 2 seconds, they are pretty much going to get away (1 second for the server to respond, and then your countdown happens)


You mean 1 Hz right? Because 1 MHz will make EVE go SANIC FAST in terms of server ticks per second.

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#8 - 2015-02-04 22:36:44 UTC
Server tick isnt the only factor.

You also have to think about the players ping to and from the server.

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Mr Spaxi
#9 - 2015-02-04 23:32:56 UTC
For a taxi, I wouldn't worry about instalocking ships, but more about smartbombers who might blow your ship up if it's not tanked.

Get some MSE in mediums, and as many inertia stabilizers in lows, then put some hyperspatial rigs and voila! a taxi is born.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#10 - 2015-02-05 01:12:01 UTC
Mr Spaxi wrote:
For a taxi, I wouldn't worry about instalocking ships, but more about smartbombers who might blow your ship up if it's not tanked.

Get some MSE in mediums, and as many inertia stabilizers in lows, then put some hyperspatial rigs and voila! a taxi is born.


Shield extenders probably make you more lockable, though...
Mr Spaxi
#11 - 2015-02-05 08:30:17 UTC
Not by all that much, I'll have to EFT to get exact numbers, but I'm sure it's not very significant. At least 1 MSE will stop you from getting disco'd while not increasing your signature drastically.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#12 - 2015-02-05 10:21:07 UTC
Cheap and effective:
[Atron, taxi]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

1MN Afterburner II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Prototype Cloaking Device I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


4,7 kEHP, less then 2 sec align time (w/o AB) and you are able to cloack in safe spot if system is busy. 7au/s travel time.

Reason, why caldari frigates are not that good in logistic, IMHO, is that they tends to have less low slots and less speed.

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Mr Spaxi
#13 - 2015-02-05 14:19:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Spaxi
Wouldn't inertia stabilizers be a better idea?

I think something like this can work very well, since you wanted a Caldari taxi.

http://gyazo.com/cd9999b9a168e255aa24be18e7ddd1c3

It has 92 m3 of cargo, warp off time of 2s (anything less than 2s is not worth it) and enough EHP to tank smart bombs. Putting Nanofibers doesn't work, your warp off is 3s.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#14 - 2015-02-05 15:41:12 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
Mr Spaxi wrote:
Wouldn't inertia stabilizers be a better idea?



Stabilizers increase you sig radius. And it really does not matter if you align time is 1,5 or 1,9 sec. Important is, that it is under 2 or under 3 seconds. And since I am under 2 seconds with nano - I do not need stabilizers.

[Raptor, taxi]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II

1MN Afterburner II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Improved Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

Signature is under 50 m and align time is still under 2 seconds. T2 warp speed rig adds only 0,4 au/s and I tryed to keep this fit cheap, so T1 used.

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Mr Spaxi
#15 - 2015-02-05 15:53:05 UTC
You're 2.1s with nanos, that's still 3s warpoff.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#16 - 2015-02-05 15:57:31 UTC
Mr Spaxi wrote:
You're 2.1s with nanos, that's still 3s warpoff.


EFT says, that my atron has 1,9 sec align time, just as your raptor.

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Mr Spaxi
#17 - 2015-02-05 16:09:11 UTC
My bad, I meant that a Raptor with nanos has a 3s warp off. :)

Atron does have 2s warp off indeed, but I believe the OP wanted a Caldari taxi fit, which I believe the Raptor to be perfect for.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#18 - 2015-02-05 16:17:51 UTC
Mr Spaxi wrote:
My bad, I meant that a Raptor with nanos has a 3s warp off. :)



Raptor fit I posted has 1,9 sec align time according to EFT.

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Mr Spaxi
#19 - 2015-02-05 16:51:03 UTC
Yup, that's fine.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#20 - 2015-02-08 04:05:09 UTC
You people.

If you need a fast cheap taxi, look no further than the mighty Venture.

Align time? Has it in spades.

Warp activation? Hells yeah.

Sig tank? LIKE A BOSS.

Add in the built-in warp stabs and you have the perfect taxi.

Add some guns to it and you have the perfect surprise buttsex boat too.......:)


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