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Schala Regulus StarField Logistics Likes received: 0	#1 - 2015-01-26 08:44:01 UTC I just got my raven and can't figure a good fit a friend gave me a set of arbalest launcers but im not sure on the rest. Any help is appreciated. Thank you

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

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#2 - 2015-01-26 09:37:11 UTC

Something like this:

[Raven, mjd entry]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II

X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Myriad Blaze

Common Sense Ltd

Nulli Secunda

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#3 - 2015-01-26 09:48:15 UTC

Zhilia Mann wrote:

Consider switching one Rigor for a Flare.
And for a beginner switch one BCS for a DC II and consider switching the TP for a Large Shield Extender II (DPS will suffer, though).
Also be aware that the two kinetic hardeners are mission specific. You'll change them constantly with regard to the damage type of your enemies (check http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage ).
And never forget to bring a full flight of drones, either Hobgoblin II or Warrior II.

Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2
Odethia Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 2	#4 - 2015-01-26 12:45:02 UTC Myriad Blaze wrote: And for a beginner switch one BCS for a DC II and consider switching the TP for a Large Shield Extender II (DPS will suffer, though). Completely agree on the rest but don't mix active and buffer tank on PVE ship. Actualy don't buffer tank at all on PVE ships unless passive shield tanking.

Bagatur I

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 87

#5 - 2015-01-26 12:53:56 UTC

This my fit. I ran something like previously posted before. It was pretty painful. Then a friend suggested this fit and I cant be happier about it.
[Raven]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Cap Recharger II
X-Large Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Cap Recharger II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Obviously, shield hardeners are mission specific, not always 3xEM :).
This fit is for highest DPS missions. Consider swapping one cap recharger for a TP or a propulsion mod, depending on missions (more cruisers/battlecruisers than battleships, long distances to travel, etc.).
Note about cap rig: with both cap skills at V, for this ship and fit, semiconductor memory cell is better for cap longevity than capacitor control circuit, according to EFT at least.
Just try and see for yourself. It will only cost you the price of one large rig.

Myriad Blaze

Common Sense Ltd

Nulli Secunda

Likes received: 465

#6 - 2015-01-26 14:08:20 UTC

Odethia wrote:

Myriad Blaze wrote:

And for a beginner switch one BCS for a DC II and consider switching the TP for a Large Shield Extender II (DPS will suffer, though).

Completely agree on the rest but don't mix active and buffer tank on PVE ship.
Actualy don't buffer tank at all on PVE ships unless passive shield tanking.

Err... you are right, of course. Mixed things up here. Oops

Sorry for the confusion.


Schala Regulus StarField Logistics Likes received: 0	#7 - 2015-01-26 15:50:00 UTC I don't have training for micro jump drives yet could I fit an afterburner in the mean time?

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Chris Winter Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary Likes received: 647	#8 - 2015-01-26 16:33:45 UTC Myriad Blaze wrote: Consider switching one Rigor for a Flare. No. Bad advice. A rigor I is always better than a flare I. Only use flares if you're out of calibration and can't fit another rigor.

Myriad Blaze

Common Sense Ltd

Nulli Secunda

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#9 - 2015-01-26 21:19:17 UTC

Chris Winter wrote:

Myriad Blaze wrote:

Consider switching one Rigor for a Flare.

No. Bad advice. A rigor I is always better than a flare I. Only use flares if you're out of calibration and can't fit another rigor.

Grr... I hate to be wrong. And twice in one thread... drat.
Was thinking about my own (CNR) fit which has two Rigor II and one Flare II... but that's not exactly the same situation.

Paranoid Loyd

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#10 - 2015-01-26 21:39:12 UTC | Edited by: Paranoid Loyd

My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I

Blink

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Fix the Prospect!

Orlacc

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#11 - 2015-01-26 22:05:11 UTC

Zhilia Mann wrote:

This. And yes an afterburner until MJD.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 606
Caleidascope Republic Military School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 606	#12 - 2015-01-26 22:21:53 UTC Schala Regulus wrote: I don't have training for micro jump drives yet could I fit an afterburner in the mean time? You will probably die. Wait for lmjd to finish training. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first!

Caleidascope

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

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#13 - 2015-01-26 22:22:55 UTC

Paranoid Loyd wrote:

Trains keep on rolling,
Trolls keep on trolling.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!


Paranoid Loyd Likes received: 10,020	#14 - 2015-01-26 22:28:23 UTC 1 Caleidascope wrote: Trains keep on rolling, Trolls keep on trolling. I linked the thread and added a winky. I hope no one thought I was serious. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!

Caleidascope

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

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#15 - 2015-01-26 22:30:53 UTC

Zhilia Mann wrote:

Take the above fit, but...

Signal amp is needed because raven has crappy 93 km targeting range. But! That is only for regular cruise missiles. If you use autotargeting cruise missiles, then your targeting range does not matter, all you need is get agro from the rats using TP (which is part of this fit) and then turn on your launchers. Which means that you can remove the signal amp and replace it with something else, dc or pds or cpu module.

Cap booster is not needed on lmjd fit. It is probably carry over from the A la Liang raven fit (which is probably 6 years old now). You can fit another resist or cap recharger, this way you don't need to manage your cap booster and don't need to waste cargo space for cap booster charges.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

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#16 - 2015-01-26 22:44:56 UTC

Caleidascope wrote:

Cap booster is not needed on lmjd fit. It is probably carry over from the A la Liang raven fit (which is probably 6 years old now). You can fit another resist or cap recharger, this way you don't need to manage your cap booster and don't need to waste cargo space for cap booster charges.

It is, of course, a holdover. I'd still keep it in in the case that you might opt not to MJD away and retain the ability to tank. Flexibility and options and whatnot.

As for the autotargeting missiles.... I have no idea. I don't use them, but then I also don't fly Ravens.

Caleidascope

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

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#17 - 2015-01-26 22:52:07 UTC | Edited by: Caleidascope

Zhilia Mann wrote:

As for the autotargeting missiles.... I have no idea. I don't use them, but then I also don't fly Ravens.

I fly ravens and use autotargeting missiles.

With max skills autotargeting cruise missiles have range of 220 km. It is why signal amp is kinda... useless at these ranges.

However, if pilot is using regular cruise missiles, then signal amp is a very nice mod to have. I have used it in the past.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Chainsaw Plankton

FaDoyToy

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#18 - 2015-01-26 23:31:17 UTC

Zhilia Mann wrote:

Caleidascope wrote:

the cap booster isn't really needed with max skills, with lower skills it lets you complete nearly all missions without needing warp outs. At 100km it really isn't needed either. Also with the raven's rebalance the LMJD is pretty much a freeby slot imo. the goal should be to complete missions without ever using it (well with a few exceptions), and later replace it with an ab/mwd when you feel comfortable with the missions.

I like the signal amp for the extra scan res and +2 locked targets, couldn't think of a better use of that slot on the raven.

MJD + auto targeting missiles is a pretty cool setup. mostly afk 600ish dps. they hit whatever is closest so can have trigger issues, but then again at 100km you stay pretty safe on that front. also aggro is really funny with auto-targeting missiles.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter


Caleidascope Republic Military School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 606	#19 - 2015-01-26 23:55:58 UTC Chainsaw Plankton wrote: MJD + auto targeting missiles is a pretty cool setup. mostly afk 600ish dps. I don't think you mean afk. The launchers need to be activated after each reload. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first!


Schala Regulus StarField Logistics Likes received: 0	#20 - 2015-01-27 00:17:53 UTC I can only fit T1 shields so maybe the booster for another 2 days till my training is done and I can fit T2 hardners and adaptive.

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