Player Features and Ideas Discussion

now i'm not 100% against caps in HS seeing as if CCP are considering it they must have some idea as to how to properly implement it



but this idea is just messy poorly thought out and will simply cause problems for new players and small/start up groups

tying it to standings would be a horrible mistake.

How about only JF's jumps in and out?

I'm fine with capitals coming into high-sec, so long as CONCORD declares that defending them is your problem.

Standings services boosted corp standings for 7 days. Not personal standings.

Regarding the OP's suggestion...I dunno. On the one hand, I feel like it would be reasonable from a lore perspective for empires to allow their closest allies the use of capital assets in their territory, especially in response to recent events with Sleepers entering known space. On the other hand, I feel like this would quickly devolve into a mass standings grind in order to access the ultimate "I Win" button, which is not what I'd call ideal gameplay.

I'm torn on the whole thing.

IF capitals were ever to be allowed into hisec, and that is an awfully big "if" that I don't necessarily support, they should be limited to 0.7 and below security systems, just like the old POS limits.

My main reason for thinking this is several-fold:

1. There are several major losec pipes that are interrupted by small pockets of hisec systems. If CCP really wants capitals to use gates as a viable alternative to jump drives, they shouldn't be excluded from major pipes.

2. Without being able to enter 0.8 and above systems, capital ships still couldn't "cut across hisec" to save travel time. I did a little experiment in Dotlan a while back when I first started thinking about this, and every which way I tried to cut across hisec, you end up hitting a 0.8+ system. You're limited to skirting the edges and can't every get anywhere near major trade hubs.

3. Even assuming that you didn't limit their combat abilities in hisec, POS owners in 0.8+ systems would be safe from capital threats. This would make such systems more valuable for POS owners.

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4. No cynos in hisec. There are no real controls on who can and who can't jump to a cyno, and that just opens up a huge can of worms.

As they appear in a flash of light just above your tiny cruiser, spewing forth swarms of drones that envelope your friends like starved piranhas. One by one your, watchlist is systematically devoured and comms go silent as the FC buys it moments before the feeding frenzy finally turns to you. Like a blinky red blob reminiscent of the defence of Zion, they descend on your ship. So terrifying that even your client freezes in fear. Alarms sound off with barely a breath between them. Shield. Armour. Structure.

And then you wake up, safe and warm in your home station. Was it a bad dream?


Right?

Would of been more funny if that story ended with concord blasting the cap apart because it's owner had safety on reds and targetted the wrong person.

Not explicitly as that was not the question I was asked (I did this as part of another forum discussion), but I did get the impression that doing so wouldn't be helpful. There are a couple of paths that you could take to get reasonably deep into hisec, and there are some losec pockets within jump range of those paths, but it seemed that jumping to those losec pockets would take you the wrong direction or wouldn't be enough to cross some of the major regional boundaries. (Kaaputenen to Niarja is a perfect example of this.)

Keep in mind, I'm not saying this conclusively. That level of confidence would take more work.

Now, if you could cyno into 0.5-0.7, cutting across hisec would be do-able. Probably almost trivial. This, coupled with a few other notions, is why I firmly believe that if capitals ever do get access to hisec, it be by stargate only.

I feel like if capitals ever do get allowed in hisec, the CONCORD response against capital ships may have to get beefed up considerably. It's scary to think it, but a fully-insured, cheaply fit dread could likely solo-gank the right freighter and still profit.