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AUR / PLEX / ISK to ISK -> AUR -> PLEX

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1 - 2015-01-25 07:43:05 UTC
Either my EVE-Search Fu is not strong, this hasn't been raised yet or the search engine is not particularly good.
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The team is looking into removing buying PLEX directly and replacing it with buying AUR which can then be redeemed for a PLEX from the New Eden Store, reducing the current ISK/PLEX/AUR to simply ISK/AUR
I would rather not run the launcher.

Do you think that having AUR floating around in your account would tempt you into dressing up your barbie doll?

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Chribba
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#2 - 2015-01-25 08:44:00 UTC
Another one not wanting to use the launcher here. But if it comes to that I will switch over and use my own launcher in order for smooth start of my accounts and still get the NEX working.

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DaReaper
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#3 - 2015-01-25 09:07:01 UTC
what does the launcher have anything to do with anything?

I'm confused.

you can access the NES without the launcher AFAIK.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-01-25 09:26:31 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
what does the launcher have anything to do with anything?

I'm confused.

you can access the NES without the launcher AFAIK.


This.

Where does the launcher come into play here?

It makes NO sense at all to include the launcher into something that has nothing to do with the launcher.


So, I guess.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#5 - 2015-01-25 09:34:35 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Where does the launcher come into play here?
Run the game without the launcher, mess about with captain's quarters, NES and such then come back here and tell me how that went. Smile

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J'Poll
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Caldari State
#6 - 2015-01-25 09:36:54 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Where does the launcher come into play here?
Run the game without the launcher, mess about with captain's quarters, NES and such then come back here and tell me how that went. Smile


Works great for me...for the last 1.5 years...actually, I never used the launcher in the first place, and have yet to find anything wrong with CQ and/or NES shop

So, again, where does launcher comes into play, when it obviously isn't the launcher?

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#7 - 2015-01-25 10:13:36 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Where does the launcher come into play here?
Run the game without the launcher, mess about with captain's quarters, NES and such then come back here and tell me how that went. Smile


Works great for me...for the last 1.5 years...actually, I never used the launcher in the first place, and have yet to find anything wrong with CQ and/or NES shop

So, again, where does launcher comes into play, when it obviously isn't the launcher?

I'm in Jen's boat: I'd love to know how you're using the NEX store without the launcher.

The launcher fetches certain Internet-Somethings (<- highly technical term here) from Somewhere on the Internet (tm) to enable the store. Which certain Somethings don't get fetched if you start via exefile.exe.

There was a dev post about that some time ago.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#8 - 2015-01-25 10:13:50 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Where does the launcher come into play here?
Run the game without the launcher, mess about with captain's quarters, NES and such then come back here and tell me how that went. Smile

Works great for me...for the last 1.5 years...actually, I never used the launcher in the first place, and have yet to find anything wrong with CQ and/or NES shop
So, again, where does launcher comes into play, when it obviously isn't the launcher?
Funny, mine says I need to run the launcher to access NES.

Either way, back on track:

Do you think that having AUR floating around in your account would tempt you into dressing up your barbie doll?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
J'Poll
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Caldari State
#9 - 2015-01-25 11:21:16 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
I can just click the NES store icon in the menu, and it will open.
Then again, it's been ages since I used it...cause I don't give a **** about vanity stuff.

Which answers the question, no it won't.

EVE is about spaceships and the amount of time I will actually see my character...near none, cause hangar view is so much better (yeah, ship spinning).

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#10 - 2015-01-25 11:21:47 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:

Do you think that having AUR floating around in your account would tempt you into dressing up your barbie doll?


Nope. Bit of a case of "wrong insertion point" for what otherwise may or may not remain a harmless approach.
Memphis Baas
#11 - 2015-01-25 12:46:08 UTC
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The team is looking into removing buying PLEX directly and replacing it with buying AUR which can then be redeemed for a PLEX from the New Eden Store, reducing the current ISK/PLEX/AUR to simply ISK/AUR


Yeah, having to access the NES in order to get or manipulate a PLEX for account-related stuff wouldn't be nice.

If the metrics show that not many people are accessing the NES, that's because the interface is somewhat clunky, the preview options aren't letting us see how the whole outfit would look on the character, there's no "collections" (using a term from another MMO) where the outfits that we already have are highlighted somehow, and there's not a lot of choice. The whole store feels ignored.
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#12 - 2015-01-25 13:38:21 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:

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Do you think that having AUR floating around in your account would tempt you into dressing up your barbie doll?

Just having this AUR floating around probably won't, unless people have a lot of it lying around for some reason (more than one or two PLEX worth of AUR). However, if the PLEX will be sold through the NES store, a lot more people will visit the NES store more frequently. This would result in more people being aware of what products are available on the NES store, what the latest sales are etc. and it could (I should probably say will) trigger some people into impulse purchases.

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Adrie Atticus
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#13 - 2015-01-25 13:43:19 UTC
I've got a better question:

What's wrong with the launcher? No, I don't want an emotion-filled answer about change, I want facts which make the launcher a security risk.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#14 - 2015-01-25 14:10:08 UTC
I used to have problems getting junctioned clients to properly seperate if I used the launcher. That doesn't seem to be an issue anymore, but of course, the store doesn't work for me even with the launcher.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#15 - 2015-01-25 15:59:33 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
I've got a better question:

What's wrong with the launcher? No, I don't want an emotion-filled answer about change, I want facts which make the launcher a security risk.
For one, if you run EVE on Linux using the launcher it memory leaks and refuses to close. You have to terminate the process when you eventually manage to open up the process manager.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-01-25 16:25:10 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
I've got a better question:

What's wrong with the launcher? No, I don't want an emotion-filled answer about change, I want facts which make the launcher a security risk.
For one, if you run EVE on Linux using the launcher it memory leaks and refuses to close. You have to terminate the process when you eventually manage to open up the process manager.

eh, having a task manager of sorts open at all times is good practice even on windows, surprising how many prograsm open up in the background that serve no purpose but to endlessly draw away resources until closed (and almost all of them have to do with itunes/apple products, so not even sure how they got on my computer)

but yeah, if it seriously causes a memory leak issue when running on linux, then CCP needs to look at how the files runs under an emulator or what have you and see if its their code not translating properly in the simulated environment, or if its a linux issue to start
Sadario
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Negative Feedback
#17 - 2015-01-25 16:48:34 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

but yeah, if it seriously causes a memory leak issue when running on linux, then CCP needs to look at how the files runs under an emulator


They should, but no, they don't. Linux-support was scrapped a few years back. CCP only (officially) supports M$ and fruits (mainly apple).
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#18 - 2015-01-25 17:09:26 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Either my EVE-Search Fu is not strong, this hasn't been raised yet or the search engine is not particularly good.
Quote:
The team is looking into removing buying PLEX directly and replacing it with buying AUR which can then be redeemed for a PLEX from the New Eden Store, reducing the current ISK/PLEX/AUR to simply ISK/AUR
I would rather not run the launcher.

Do you think that having AUR floating around in your account would tempt you into dressing up your barbie doll?

I do not have any barbie dolls, all I have are capsuleers.

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#19 - 2015-01-25 17:12:39 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
I've got a better question:

What's wrong with the launcher? No, I don't want an emotion-filled answer about change, I want facts which make the launcher a security risk.

On a Mac there is something called the eve clonemaker. It uses links of some sort to make a copy of the client that uses very little memory. But when you use the clone, its the same as going directly to the .exe file.

Using clones is nice as if something happens to glitch it out, you can quickly just delete the clone and make a new one, and never put your main install in danger of getting glitched.

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#20 - 2015-01-25 17:13:24 UTC
I would think this would make AUR more expensive in terms of isk if they tied plex buying to it and insure higher prices in isk of items over time as all the store items would be tied to plex price increases therefore people would get more for buying store items for money and changing it to isk over time.

That is if I got my mind wrapped around this.

Itd also increase presentation to people and sales as a result. Like how some stores have the cashier in the back not the front of the store so u have to walk through the entire store before making a purchase so you can see and maybe impulse buy an item before you get there. Product placement is a HUGE part of driving sales.

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