EVE General Discussion

So, what you would prefer is maybe a Rock, Paper, Scissors style of balancing?

We have that, its called nearly every other MMO out there. Including WoW. What you want would bring about a game that makes every character feel generic. There will be one way to properly equip a ship. All the miners from a race would all be in the same ships, with the same modules, the same skill sets. Fleets of battlships would roam through nulsec, doing battle with fleets of identical battleships with the same modules. No, you can work balance like that in a game like eve. It actually REQUIRES that there be some imbalances in the game in order for it to work. It requires that there be numerous ways of doing things to keep it from feeling like every character is just a clone of every other.

WoW has this problem. Every Shaman is the same, and in the same gear. Every Paladin is the same...and in the same gear...etc, etc.

I dont need to, I have read it and understood it. I dont think I have misinterpreted anything that has been said. You believe that the ships are unblanaced and that it should be attack Vs coutner, which is a Rock, Paper, Scissors style of blanacing.

Ahhh well, suffice to say, I think CCP are doing a good job. Sleep well, hoefully you wont be as grumpy tomorrow old man.

Trolling? No...I challenged you on your points, though, I do admit I trolled a little at the start. I was having a bad hair day. That aside however, the reason I am concentrating on the balancing of the ships is because, its really the only thing I challenged that you have responded to in any depth.

But I have made my feelings on the matter quite clear. If CCP were to do things the way you would have ships balanced, well, me might as well all go play Rappels or something.

Anyway, Im gonna head off and run a few missions before I go to sleep, so, I will see you around EVE I am sure.

Dude plays EVE and is rage quitting, of course his GF is hot!
Anyway he will be back. 8 years invested is the equivalent of 25 years of hard drinking. No way he can go cold turkey.

Yeah CCP has made so many stupid mistakes it makes you wonder why we still play. Oh wait that's because there is no other space game with the same mechanics on a single shard with this much drama on and off the forums.

And yes some of the ships in this game blow chunks and should be deleted from the DB. And there are other problems with the game. But look at this way. When your hot GF compares you to another guy, she prolly has to justify sticking around too. Maybe your too tall or too fat or too small but hey she is still around so you must be doing something right.

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AS rebalancing is not going to wait until the next expansion. It almost made it into the first cycle of Crucible, now it's going to be part of a later update: this is what we have already been told by CCP.

Every time I see one of these bittervet threads, I end up with a new name for my hide post filter.

IMO THIS is what is wrong with EVE.
Too many people thinking they are the bee's knees but they can't and won't do anything until someone spoonfeeds it to them.
In this quote the terms "75% of my time in station" "something about risk aversity and lack of experience" "needing constant FC direction" occur far too close together for your point to be taken seriously. All I heard was "another mindless git waiting for eve to happen to me rather than doing anything to make stuff happen"... By the way, as far as I know your station is not a constant PVP environment mr pvp pro.

"What today's gamers take for granted, we old timers ~worked~ to get done."

I don't mind plex as much, as long as something could be done with botting, and (wears flame retardant suit) yes high sec is currently the isk fountain of eve. Need money and don't want to rat in null? Fine, do lvl 4s using a bot. Tired of afk padding your wallet? Do some incursions. The EVE community has become fat stupid and lazy.

Respect to the OP...

My only challenge to his request is that there are many in the Eve universe who really enjoy this game but also have RL commitments like families and jobs. As such if I did not have PLEX I would not be able to play eve and have to drop the game. An average of 2-3 hrs a day of game time is not enough to earn the idk required to fly the boats my skills are allow - throw in the odd mandatory OP and there is no way it could work for me. PLEX allow me to be an active participant in 0.0 life in the hour or two a day I have to play.

All the statements about a sandbox economy and the devaluation of ISK are true, but there are many true sataements on any subject, and in this case there would be many like me that would have to drop EVE with them; in fact I would say that it is one of the largest demographics in the game.

RMTers and BOTs are the real killers.... Don't kill my PLEX

IMHO