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Roxanne Quall
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-22 18:45:34 UTC
ONLY in Player Vs Player As it would be dumb to have to deal with this in Ratting.


What if instead of Line Of Sight dynamics some have suggested wont work for eve We did it a little differently,

Instead of objects blocking shots what if different areas gave different effects to Combat.

You enter a asteroid field you have a chance that shots hit you less or do less dmg.

Or a GasCloud inhibits tracking sensors

Or certain areas people can hide from Directions scanner

I'm not suggesting these examples are to go into effect but the idea behind them.

How cool would it be to have Strategic Options available for PvP
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-01-22 18:51:02 UTC
Roxanne Quall wrote:


How cool would it be to have Strategic Options available for PvP


http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg

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Iain Cariaba
#3 - 2015-01-22 18:53:04 UTC
Your search-fu failed you. All it took was looking on page 2 of F&I.

Reported for redundancy.
Roxanne Quall
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-01-22 19:25:13 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Your search-fu failed you. All it took was looking on page 2 of F&I.

Reported for redundancy.


This is completely different than Line of Sight. There are no objects you have to interact with.
Discomanco
We pooped on your lawn
#5 - 2015-01-22 22:37:30 UTC
Roxanne Quall wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Your search-fu failed you. All it took was looking on page 2 of F&I.

Reported for redundancy.


This is completely different than Line of Sight. There are no objects you have to interact with.

" Now granted it's probably a programming nightmare to make all the rocks be actual obstructions to gun fire." How is that not LoS?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2015-01-22 23:39:11 UTC
Roxanne Quall wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Your search-fu failed you. All it took was looking on page 2 of F&I.

Reported for redundancy.


This is completely different than Line of Sight. There are no objects you have to interact with.


the thread he linked is also not line of sight

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Scifi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-01-24 03:06:08 UTC
Does that mean I can have the option to "Fly casual"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sh0CF3lHw
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-01-24 06:39:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Roxanne Quall wrote:
ONLY in Player Vs Player As it would be dumb to have to deal with this in Ratting.


What if instead of Line Of Sight dynamics some have suggested wont work for eve We did it a little differently,

Instead of objects blocking shots what if different areas gave different effects to Combat.

You enter a asteroid field you have a chance that shots hit you less or do less dmg.

Or a GasCloud inhibits tracking sensors

Or certain areas people can hide from Directions scanner

I'm not suggesting these examples are to go into effect but the idea behind them.

How cool would it be to have Strategic Options available for PvP




I know you say just throwing these out there but.....

many things cover this in game already. All you have to do is bring the right ship and/or fit the right mods.


Recons can't be d-scan'd now for example.

Fit TD, effect tracking

Run some halo's, drop th sig a little and see less damage (missiles directly since sig ties directly into damage, turrets can get less good hits indirectly).


Put another way...do we need special areas to this when mods do it. We can argue wh's have effects. We can also say if you like these well....go there. Well that and with wh's with the bene's of the effect they hurt something else. Armour versus shield in a wolf rayet....I am liking armour's odds off the bat. Basically to be like a wh but localized, you eyeing some downsides to this? Hide in the belt for one effect lets have something else go to utter crap.
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-01-24 09:47:45 UTC
Roxanne Quall wrote:
ONLY in Player Vs Player As it would be dumb to have to deal with this in Ratting.


Wat.

Explain why it would be dumb please.

You do realize EVE PvP is already highly strategic and tactical right?

Grrr.
Roxanne Quall
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-01-25 04:29:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Roxanne Quall
All EVE PVP has come down to is just useing Range as Tactics in huge balls on Gates. Or People cherry picking PvE guys outta Anoms. Oh Boy Thats Tactics there.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-01-25 08:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Roxanne Quall wrote:
All EVE PVP has come down to is just useing Range as Tactics in huge balls on Gates. Or People cherry picking PvE guys outta Anoms. Oh Boy Thats Tactics there.



3 month old char and oh so bitter already...lol.


Tell us where the main is (be vague like alliance or region of space hunting atm if you'd like) so we can get an idea of what your ops are like. Sounds like main is in a low sec or 0.0 entity that cba to run a proper roam. You chose your home on the main if so.....deal with it.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#12 - 2015-01-25 08:27:39 UTC
Discomanco wrote:
" Now granted it's probably a programming nightmare to make all the rocks be actual obstructions to gun fire." How is that not LoS?
I would just be happy if the collision object was a little smaller than the visual mess instead of vice versa where you get trapped on something you should not hit.

Regarding the OP:
I can agree with strategic on grid effects. I like the basic idea.

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.