Ships & Modules

Tengu is popular. Britney Spears is popular.


It depends on what you want to use the tool for. WHs.....probably Proteus as you have Gallente already. But Proteus is weaksauce for L4. Tengu is/was best before HML "adjustment." For efficiency a BS is best.

As far as the T3 changes.....way down the road. It would be silly to hesitate training based on speculation. I trained 'em all and am glad I did! But I would train for the one that you currently have the most racial skills already just to learn how to use one.

The Proteus is probably one of the better choice right now for PvP. It's a great brawer, can fit either a massive buffer or a strong active. The cloaky variant is also the best you can get. The Proteus in a Rail config works okay for Ratting and other PVE set ups, though it not the greatest. The drone Proteus is actually fairly decent though not used very much, it can fit a HUGE tank, while maintaining decent DPS. The Explosive resist hole is a slight knock back as it's an obvious choice, so make sure you plug it!

The Tengu is probably the best PVE T3 out there. It's a decent PvP ship. The Blaster Tengu has some merits, but the Rail Tengu is absolutely fantastic it's actually a Standard Fleet Doctrine right now for move Nullbloc's I believe. The 100mn Tengu is also a fairly good choice, but it does come at a very steep price. Then Tengu however doesn't get a great tank, at least for PVP. PVE it's perfectly suited for, however a PVP tank you're usually either getting about 100k buffer, (That's Two LSE II and two Adaptive Invul II And only getting for the most part, A prop mod and a point) Or a Two Large-ASB or if you want to take a even bigger hit to DPS a XL-ASB. The Obvious EM resist hole for your tank also limits you as everybody is going to know what to shoot at you.

The Legion is another good choice. Again depending on what you want to uses it for. I use mine as a HAM/Neut boat, and it works fairly well. The most used version of the Legion I see is the Insta-Locking Gate/Station Camper. It's capable of blasting most smaller things like T1 Indys, Cepters and Frigs, very easily. The Legion gets an okay active tank, but the active tank only works well with a HAM set up. The Buffer tank on the ship however can yield stupid amounts of EHP, Also the Legion has the Resist hole of Therm, which if I'm correct if the least used Damage type in game. Though it always wise the plug it anyways. For the most part unless you're fighting competent people are most likely to explosive type damage at you. (Though my adventures anyways)

The Loki is the only T3 I have yet to fly. But it probably is the Tankiest of all the cloak T3s, and it also makes a very nice Insta-locker. It's main uses though seems to be as a Heavy Tackler. With it's bonus to Web Range. From word of mouth only I've heard The Medium projectiles however might need a buff however so you might want to keep away from those for right now, though it's possible I may be wrong.

My thoughts on them anyways.

If you are looking for versatility, any T3 will do you fine.

In wormholes, there are affects you may need to consider. One wormhole hurts shield resists badly for example so a shield T3 might not do well.

A semi bling fit tengu (a faction shield booster that's all in the bling) will roflstomp all L4s despite resistances and damage types etc. But take it into the wrong wormhole, neuting enemies, or low and you'll regret it.

So, all depends on where you are going and what you like to do play style wise.

Your question should be "what sort of overkill is the most overkill for me?".

Confirmed. Covert tengu weapons (in non combat exploration setup) are just decorations, but tengu have huge advantage, fast warping.

Me too! How?

Given how, finally, T3 are to be rebalanced this whole thread about which T3 to aim for is probably quite useless. On top of that none of the T3 are actually GOOD for mission running, some are ok but not on par with other, more normal, options. You also can't use them in most high sec combat sites.

Tengu does not warp any different. I fly all 4 and right now Proteus is my favorite. The only one that can fit a covert sub and not gimp DPS too badly.

I was not precise, it align faster than any other t3 with similiar fit (in my case: nullified covert cloaky non combat explorer). As i said difference is less than 1 s.
Both proteus and tengu have gravitational capacitor subsystem which allows to warp in close to 5AU.