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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-01-16 14:23:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind.

Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard.

Here's the splash again.

Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work.

Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D.

Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity.
It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-01-16 14:24:46 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.

I hear ya. Sheesh, noobs these days... Straight
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-01-16 14:28:38 UTC
Thrawn Armidious wrote:
Any idea where one still exists in game? I looked at a few logistics stations near Jita but couldn't find one shaped like that.

Try Motsu. I think the CN or CPF station there (the one with the L4 agent) has that model. Might be wrong though, been a while since I've actually been there.
Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2015-01-16 14:30:19 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.


*Yells from across the room "I get it!"*
Thrawn Armidious
Wehnimer's Irregulars
#25 - 2015-01-16 14:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Thrawn Armidious
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind.

Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard.

Here's the splash again.

Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work.

Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D.

Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity.
It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really.


That looks really good, thanks for putting it together.

Some models do flat out change though, like the recent change to the Falcon/Blackbird. I know there were alot of models from 2003 that just simply don't exist any more. I still can't find the station in game. All the logistics stations use the "research station" model.

You can check it by doing a show info on a system and then a show info on the stations, then clicking the image. All the logistics stations use a sort of "A" shape now.
T8497
Torgue
#26 - 2015-01-16 14:44:37 UTC
I was always more concerned about the moon nazi on the cover.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-01-16 14:59:14 UTC
Thrawn Armidious wrote:
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind.

Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard.

Here's the splash again.

Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work.

Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D.

Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity.
It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really.


That looks really good, thanks for putting it together.

Some models do flat out change though, like the recent change to the Falcon/Blackbird. I know there were alot of models from 2003 that just simply don't exist any more. I still can't find the station in game. All the logistics stations use the "research station" model.

You can check it by doing a show info on a system and then a show info on the stations, then clicking the image. All the logistics stations use a sort of "A" shape now.

Ok, it's really late and I've gotta go to work in 3 hours, but here's a Logistics Station like the one in the picture:

Nonni III - Home Guard Testing Facilities

Good luck
Thrawn Armidious
Wehnimer's Irregulars
#28 - 2015-01-16 15:01:49 UTC
Nice! There it is!

Ferni is a master researcher!
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#29 - 2015-01-16 15:47:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.
For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....Cool


Edit: And thank you Ferni Ka'Nviiou for the work you did on the render. Appreciated!

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Solecist Project
#30 - 2015-01-16 15:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
ISD Ezwal wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.
For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....Cool


Edit: And thank you Ferni Ka'Nviiou for the work you did on the render. Appreciated!

*kinks*

Thank you for making me laugh, ISD Ezwal...

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-01-16 20:25:09 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.


I got it and laughed.

It was funnier when other posters didn't get it! Lol

Been around since the beginning.
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-01-16 21:48:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Provence Tristram
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Ignoring the fact that... Nevermind.

Here's my simple recreation without all the effects. I tried my best to replicate the angle, but it was quite hard.

Here's the splash again.

Now, Provence, Bantams are not the Frigate featured in the splash. They're in my render here, so compare if you wish. I gave them benefit of an exaggerated angle, but it still doesn't work.

Sorry it took so long, but I guess there's nothing 'quick' about 3D.

Thrawn, models may have changed, but they are still recognisable. Nowadays, when old model are changed, they are re-imagined, but with these models (as you can see from the station), they just gain complexity.
It is the Federation Navy Comet, the ship that you are looking for. Nothing compares to it in uniqueness, really.


Well, part of the reason it doesn't work is you have the Bantams facing away from us rather than towards us. Turning them 90 degrees to the right would position them in the direction the ships are flying in the original image.

For clarification's sake, the 'mystery ships' on the original box art are flying on a course roughly (though not perfectly; they're turned a little more towards the camera) parallel to the large, protruding antennae array that juts out from near the bottom of the station. The Bantams in your rendering, on the other hand, are flying on a course to intersect that array. Or, to put that yet another way, the ships are on a course to intercept the lead Comet.

The give-away for this is the direction of the engine emission effects in the original art, which are totally illogical if the ships are turned the way you have them.

I'm not saying you should go to the trouble of re-rendering the image, but it's not accurate.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#33 - 2015-01-16 22:51:14 UTC
ISD Ezwal wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.
For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....Cool


The fact that it took 7 full pages for that to be locked...

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2015-01-16 23:05:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Provence Tristram
I went ahead and took the liberty of buying a Bantam simply because I do not 3D model myself, but wanted some visual evidence of my own. Here, again, is the original box art.

Here's a shot of my Bantam at a distance, flying in (basically; within a few degrees) the same direction as those on the box art.

Here's a comparison shot of major components. (Note that I used MS Paint to simply cut and up-scale the original photo. There have been no enhancements done -- it is the same, blurry image).

3D rendering is useful, but I'd argue that photographic analysis is ultimately the more truthful science given that it deals with the facts as they exist, rather than the facts as we see them.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-01-16 23:15:25 UTC
Provence Tristram wrote:
I went ahead and took the liberty of buying a Bantam simply because I do not 3D model myself, but wanted some visual evidence of my own. Here, again, is the original box art.

Here's a shot of a Bantam at a distance, flying (basically; within a few degrees) in the same direction as those on the box art.

Here's a comparison shot of major components. (Note that I used MS Paint to simply cut and up-scale the original photo. There have been no enhancements done -- it is the same, blurry image).

3D rendering is useful, but I'd argue that photographic analysis is ultimately the more truthful science given that it deals with the facts as they exist, rather than the facts as we see them.

I was actually going to look at them in-game, but I would have been wrong in my analysis anyway. I didn't realise that they would look like that facing towards the camera.
I had it in my mind that the ship would obscure the exhaust.

Thank you, for clarifying that.

I guess that makes more sense now as well, because the Bantams are flying to attack the Comets.
My thought process was like: engine trails = direction-of-travel

But thanks again.
Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-01-16 23:17:52 UTC
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Provence Tristram wrote:
I went ahead and took the liberty of buying a Bantam simply because I do not 3D model myself, but wanted some visual evidence of my own. Here, again, is the original box art.

Here's a shot of a Bantam at a distance, flying (basically; within a few degrees) in the same direction as those on the box art.

Here's a comparison shot of major components. (Note that I used MS Paint to simply cut and up-scale the original photo. There have been no enhancements done -- it is the same, blurry image).

3D rendering is useful, but I'd argue that photographic analysis is ultimately the more truthful science given that it deals with the facts as they exist, rather than the facts as we see them.

I was actually going to look at them in-game, but I would have been wrong in my analysis anyway. I didn't realise that they would look like that facing towards the camera.
I had it in my mind that the ship would obscure the exhaust.

Thank you, for clarifying that.

I guess that makes more sense now as well, because the Bantams are flying to attack the Comets.
My thought process was like: engine trails = direction-of-travel

But thanks again.


No problem. Satelite photographic analysis is a hobby of mine, and I think a number of the skills transfer. Everything else about your rendering was bang-on.
Darren Airtex
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-01-16 23:45:28 UTC
I have the same box set in my closet, still got everything that came with it.
I also have the Prima's Official Strategy Guide for EVE Online.
From the ship pictures in the book I have that fish shaped ship is a Ibis.

Sorry I am unable to post pictures at present I do not have a camera.

Book info:
ISBN : 0-7615-4243-4
Library of Congress Catalog Card Number : 2003100532
Printed in the United States of America
03 04 05 06 BB 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Printed in 2003 by Prima Games a division of Random House, Inc.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#38 - 2015-01-17 00:43:04 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
ISD Ezwal wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Now I feel old for trying to resurrect a classic ...
... and barely anyone gets it.
For all those that did not get this reference from the rich history of EvE, but also for all those who did and want to take a trip down memory lane, it all started here....Cool


The fact that it took 7 full pages for that to be locked...

... indicates that forum moderation was better back then? Like everything else?

/bittervet

#discussingmoderation #banhammerinbound
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#39 - 2015-01-17 08:28:52 UTC
Also for the information the ships attacking the station, does carry the GF-PD logo.

And then just for the sake of it http://eve-files.com/chribba/eve_boxes.jpg

/c

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Provence Tristram
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-01-17 08:49:20 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Also for the information the ships attacking the station, does carry the GF-PD logo.

And then just for the sake of it http://eve-files.com/chribba/eve_boxes.jpg

/c


I was always partial to the rifter version, even though I hate the ship.
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