EVE General Discussion

Any deccer corp worth it's salt will overwhelm anything the everyday industrial corp can muster and you know it. Undocking a half skilled fail fit caracal won't break anything they face so it's just a few more millions thrown down the drain.

Ah know you are smarter than this. In what way would being where the deccers are prevent losses? Where did I mention fightin'?

Your security status ...
... has been lowered.

I will never understand why people think this way. Of course it will have an affect on you in some way, EVE isn't jsut a game, it's an interconnected society, EVERYTHING everyone does affects someone in some way.

This 'awox button' will mean more people will join play corps. Some of those corps will be good experiences, most of them will be bad experiences which could quite possibly accelerate a 'new players' decision to quit.

Some of those corps will be on the up and up, others will simply be 'new player grist mills' for established players to make isk off of instead of having to rat/mission/explore themselves (because the new players won't know any better). Hello "Renting" in high sec, because this change ends up creating the same meta-condition in high sec that lead to vast swaths of null becoming good for nothing but renting.

Those corps will have lower taxes than the npc corps (npc corp taxes are ISK SINKS), meaning more isk in circulation in the game after this change happens. Congratulations, the isk in your wallet is now worth less than it was before because less isk being sunk means devaluation of currently existing isk.

And on and on and on.

I can't speak to CCP's intentions, but don't underestimate the power of reverse psychology. Maybe part of the reason newbies don't leave highsec (but leave the game instead) is that they feel like the game is already too scary and unpredictable.

Let them live in a padded room with everything baby-proofed and bubble-wrapped, and maybe the boredom will awaken in some of them a desire to have a real adventure.

According to the records (yes 'wiki not definitive blah blah') Trammel was successful enough for 5 expansions to follow it and lead to 250K subs, sooo wanna try again?

"Eventually, the Renaissance expansion created large areas of the game in which it was not possible to harm other players. A significant spike in account reactivation was attributed to this aspect of Renaissance." QFT (Renaissance = Trammel)

** Note - I've only read to page 10, but felt like pointing this out.

If only it were inhabited by noobs.

And the fun part.

Nothing will change. Do you think someone will Awox a shitfit venture or a L1 fitted frigate.

Awoxers go after the pimp fits.


I think that ganking is more of an issue to new players then awoxing.

And to reply in advance to all the retards with just half a braincell.

A proper new player friendly corp is already that even without a change.
If the corp now doesnt accept cause they arw too affraid, after the change they still wont (aah you are a spy / thief) and if they do. They let new players in, this doesnt automatically means they are a new player friendly corp.

That's a purely hypthetical question since they never would do away with it, at most they would reduce it some, but yes, I believe that there would be threats of quitting but very few actually following through. That's always been the way in EVE, for the older players it's like crack, you might want to quit, but you won't.

If we did, I'm sure there would be a bunch of people arguing over it being too safe or too unsafe and not much would ever get done. What they're doing is a simple change whihc should encourage people to recruit others out of the NPC corps a bit earlier, which I think is a good start.

I imagine 2015 won't be nice to you.

Plenty of corps already recruit people as new as 5 minutes.

It is **** corps that dont.