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OMG wtf is this??

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Reiisha
#121 - 2011-12-19 05:43:13 UTC
Reminds me of Ends Journey.

Kinda miss that guy. He was good with a guitar.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#122 - 2011-12-19 06:26:30 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
If you suspect someone violating our TOS, please file a petition. Please do the same if you wonder if your gameplay is legit and within our rules, best you do that before you act.


You just won the cop out award. Would it not be better to address the question rather than pawn it off onto some clueless GM?

Damn nature, you scary!

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2011-12-19 07:44:38 UTC
http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/home

Not sure if someone post it.. but thats the case... i guess..
Koen L
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2011-12-19 09:35:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Koen L
This guy is awsome.
And as long as he is not doing something against the rules, i have no problems with it.

Of course its a bit unfair against a normal player, but who cares ? If you have a rich Grandma and buy plexes and dont care about loosing something ingame but buying Stuff, buying merc corps to do your job and building up an empire with just buying people who do jobs for you, its sort of unfair, too. But its not against the rules.

I think you can easily beat him somehow, his setup has many weaknesses and he might be safer in empire. Study him, go in with a fleet with real players and you probably be able to make serious damage to him because he is still one guy so he will not be able to do more complex stuff with his fleet.

When i watched his setup, imho i think i can do this much cheaper. On my single computer i can easily run 5 accounts the same time. Also i am using eve windowed mode helper, so i can use 5 or more accounts easily with 2 monitor.

And more then 5 accounts is just expensive because i am not able to pay for them, but i dont have a rich grandma.
Having more then 15 toons imho is inefficient. Still i want play with real life players and i personally i am not a solo player, i like eve because i like to talk with others and play together.
But this is my decision.

So thumbs up for this cool setup. I like it. I want to see more, i bookmarked his homepage. Please provide some videos about what you are doing !

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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#125 - 2011-12-19 09:40:39 UTC
mkint wrote:
Riley Moore wrote:
mkint wrote:
He's a botter. Report him. He uses software to automate the controls of 40 accounts.



Not automate, copy. BIG difference. Every action that happens still required a keypress.

No... only 1 action on 1 one of his accounts requires a keypress. The rest are bots programmed to AUTOMATICALLY mimic the lead.


Not sure if you understand... A bot is a program that runs everything by it self... A binding or copy just makes the exact same keystroke on another screen.

I see no problem here.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2011-12-19 09:48:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
mkint wrote:
He's a botter. Report him. He uses software to automate the controls of 40 accounts.


So report all null FCs too ..Cool
They use "something" to controll other people EVE clients Big smile
Hark Hanam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2011-12-19 13:09:21 UTC
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#128 - 2011-12-19 13:25:00 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Freezehunter wrote:
In any other game, that is bannable.

Why it's allowed in Eve, I do not know...


how so?

can't think of too many companies that would pass on 25 accounts because one person is playing them at one time

no difference between that and a 25 man lan party hitting the server
its done with a hardware solution and does not modify game clients or their data packets or assets

the problem for people like you, is that its totally above board, legal and a very sound strategy that benefits the player and the game company alike, and it makes you mad that you can't do it.

sad truth for your lot is that anyone can do this, all you need to do is dedicate the resources and cash to make it happen



Well actually reading you makes me think that from now on the only ones that matter will be multi boxing players, all other can go to high sec mine ice and give Goons easy km's...

While I think this is some sort of nice achievement on it self it's the downside of it you have to look at, a single guy can ruin a lot of stuff in game for many many players, this is why it's bad.
He remembers me some guys using 10 chamans in pvp insta killing several groups of players no matter how skilled you were.

All I'm saying is that this is not different from the guy using some combo pack of aimbot, chams and life hacks to play fps games. Well we can always talk about "legal" or not "legal", it's a matter of game rules at the beginning and Eve gaming rules we already know what is about.
Jeanne DeFy
Sapphire Roughneck's Industry
#129 - 2011-12-19 13:43:29 UTC
Epic ****, I always loved people who do this, it is simply epic. I wish I could do it myself but I'm stuck to running 3-4 chars on single PC :(

And dont see any reason why Multiboxing should be banned, idiots who think its botting should just gtfo from this thread.

And people who say it isnt allowed in any other MMO dont know jack ****, there isnt a single MMO out there that bans multiboxing, not WoW, not any other.
Alara IonStorm
#130 - 2011-12-19 13:44:55 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:

Well actually reading you makes me think that from now on the only ones that matter will be multi boxing players, all other can go to high sec mine ice and give Goons easy km's...

While I think this is some sort of nice achievement on it self it's the downside of it you have to look at, a single guy can ruin a lot of stuff in game for many many players, this is why it's bad.
He remembers me some guys using 10 chamans in pvp insta killing several groups of players no matter how skilled you were.

All I'm saying is that this is not different from the guy using some combo pack of aimbot, chams and life hacks to play fps games. Well we can always talk about "legal" or not "legal", it's a matter of game rules at the beginning and Eve gaming rules we already know what is about.

If you think this is unfair then change starts with you.

Biomass your alts.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#131 - 2011-12-19 13:46:19 UTC
Nobody likes a tattle tale
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#132 - 2011-12-19 14:04:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Jake Peters wrote:
I'm not sure if someone posted this link already but here is his multibox setup...looks expensive!! Big smile


I don't believe he uses the taped together mouse and keyboards. Sure "maybe" that would work if you used "1" client per computer.

It's simple.. how many mouse pointers does your OS show on screen at once.. Mine only has 1. How does he duplicate mouse pointers to be controlled by these mysterious 7 mice & keyboards that ironically aren't in his pictures. Virtual desktops? Yea right they don't run smooth enough for that as they will always get lag between them.

I've always thought and I still do, that he is using soft ware to duplicate the key strokes and the pictures he showed in the past were maybe some failed attempt or a mock up used to get unbanned. I multi box quite a bit using 1 PC and "actually" controlling each client myself. Even doing this each client will get little hick-ups here and there that would absolutely cripple some taped together mouse set up and keyboards.

I personally will never believe this guy multi boxes in any way other than software supported, until I see video of him actually doing it.

btw I see only 1 mouse and keyboard controlling all his systems on his website.. Blink
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#133 - 2011-12-19 14:10:02 UTC
"GM approved software key and mouse broadcasting"

From his website.

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Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#134 - 2011-12-19 14:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahz Niverrah
This guy is one of our war targets right now and we took a closer look at how his fleet operates. I know he claims there is no automation involved, but after watching him I find that hard to believe. Every time he undocks, jumps a gate, etc, all of his logis start up a perfect cap chain the moment they land on grid. This happens even if he is only warping to the next gate. I very much doubt he's taking the time to start up his cap chain with 6 bassies every time he warps to an out gate, nor would he be able to do it so quickly since each bassie is only cap chaining to 2 other bassies (not something easily "broadcast").

That being said, his fleet was very easy to kill since it's so predictable.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#135 - 2011-12-19 14:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
This guy is one of our war targets right now and we took a closer look at how his fleet operates. I know he claims there is no automation involved, but after watching him I find that hard to believe. Every time he undocks, jumps a gate, etc, all of his logis start up a perfect cap chain the moment they land on grid. This happens even if he is only warping to the next gate. I very much doubt he's taking the time to start up his cap chain with 6 bassies every time he warps to an out gate, nor would he be able to do it so quickly since each bassie is only cap chaining to 2 other bassies (not something easily "broadcast").

That being said, his fleet was very easy to kill since it's so predictable.


gratz you were able to gank an one man fleet....

but behavior you described is indeed suspicious .
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#136 - 2011-12-19 14:43:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahz Niverrah
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
gratz you were able to gank an one man fleet....

Like I said... it wasn't hard. There is a lot of incoming damage from the apocs, and the repping power of 6 bassies with links is substantial, but both of those things are easily countered if you plan accordingly.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#137 - 2011-12-19 16:04:08 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
Jake Peters wrote:
I'm not sure if someone posted this link already but here is his multibox setup...looks expensive!! Big smile


I don't believe he uses the taped together mouse and keyboards. Sure "maybe" that would work if you used "1" client per computer.

It's simple.. how many mouse pointers does your OS show on screen at once.. Mine only has 1. How does he duplicate mouse pointers to be controlled by these mysterious 7 mice & keyboards that ironically aren't in his pictures. Virtual desktops? Yea right they don't run smooth enough for that as they will always get lag between them.

I've always thought and I still do, that he is using soft ware to duplicate the key strokes and the pictures he showed in the past were maybe some failed attempt or a mock up used to get unbanned. I multi box quite a bit using 1 PC and "actually" controlling each client myself. Even doing this each client will get little hick-ups here and there that would absolutely cripple some taped together mouse set up and keyboards.

I personally will never believe this guy multi boxes in any way other than software supported, until I see video of him actually doing it.

btw I see only 1 mouse and keyboard controlling all his systems on his website.. Blink


old setup vs new setup

read better

the taped together stuff was before he got the kbs/mse replicator
now an external box (or a dedicated cpu) routes and splits all the input from a single kbd/mse
FastJack316
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2011-12-19 17:01:22 UTC
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
I very much doubt he's taking the time to start up his cap chain with 6 bassies every time he warps to an out gate, nor would he be able to do it so quickly since each bassie is only cap chaining to 2 other bassies (not something easily "broadcast").


If each basilisk has their cap chain targets as the first two on their watchlist it would be as simple as a couple of mouse clicks to set up the whole chain.
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#139 - 2011-12-19 17:04:57 UTC
FastJack316 wrote:
If each basilisk has their cap chain targets as the first two on their watchlist it would be as simple as a couple of mouse clicks to set up the whole chain.

Yeah, you're right. I had the same thought after I made my second post.

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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#140 - 2011-12-19 17:08:08 UTC
Fascinating, I wonder how he keeps all those accounts synced...