EVE New Citizens Q&A

Okay, as all weapon skills are trained up...

HOW do you like to fly.

Do you like shield vs armor?
Do you like kite vs brawl?


As for the PvP side, start your PvP in frigates. Even though you can use cruisers, would you rather lose a bunch of frigates or cruisers. For the same ISK, you can have way more frigates and thus way more learning experience.

Also, I would start learning PvP in groups (Agony Unleashed classes, Redemption Road's roams: Newbro & Sunday Sinners, RvB Ganked, Spectre Fleet) for the simple reason, they provide a bit of protection and fail-safe for when you ****-up (and you will when you start).

Solo PvP is hard, really really hard. So better to first learn the basics while you fly with others (and learn from them how they do certain things) and then slowly dabble into solo PvP.

Agreed with J'Poll

Don't dive into solo pvp, you simply don't get enough time to learn enough for the isk you lose.

Your criteria sounds like you should be flying amarr pulse laser boats, omen would be a good fit for you I feel.

However since you've already gone down the caldari route, moas and caracals are strong choices too. Caracals are better in smaller fleets where the rapid light launchers really shine, Moas are sturdy and pump out solid damage and best used with some kind of fleet that involves heals (logistics)

Here Mr New ISD, have your first like.

I have to keep at least one of the ISD guys on the friendly side.

Ahhhh who is the new ISD? SO CURIOUS

I generally give the same advice; start in a fleet environment to get your feet wet and learn the basics. However, please don't wait forever to try solo pvp if it interests you. You don't want to be one of those pilots that has been flying for years and still can't solo at all just because you are scared to try. It's surprising what a new player can accomplish in a cheap frigate with some creative fitting. Just keep your expectations low, expect to lose ships, learn from the experiences to perfect your fitting, and rejoice in the kills that you eventually manage.

I find solo kills more rewarding than fleet anything. I could kill a 10m isk incursus and be more proud of it than the 2b isk vindicator my fleet caught on a gate. Evenly matched fights are rare in EVE, and besting your opponent through guile or piloting skill is way more fun than beating them with numbers. I can tell you all the small details of a handful of my favorite solo kills. Fleet fights are hazy memories.

Fleets have their place too, however. I find the enjoyment there comes from interaction and cooperation with the other pilots in your fleet, rather than the actual killmails. A lot of extra strategy comes into play. Sometimes it's not fun to be part of a larger strategy (when you are primary for example), but there is a certain satisfaction that comes from being a cog in a well-oiled killing machine, and it is a great way to learn enough to launch your own solo career.

The advice on PVP in frigates is spot on. As a newbie you shouldn't fly cruisers in PVP unless you are in a corp that is either providing isk for the cruiser or an area where you can kill pirates, and run/hack sites.

PVE is another story. If you want to run missions you want to start using a cruiser with bonuses towards missiles, projectiles or drones*. In time you'll want to switch to a battlecruiser as you need one to run level 3 effective, and rat or run sites in Null Sec and wormhole space. If you like missions you'll want to look at tech 3 cruisers and battleship for level 4s as well as highend content every where.

The thing to remember about pvp is you'll never be wealthy enough to pvp. By the time you can afford to pvp in frigates you'll be buying cruiser. Then battle cruisers. Oh wait you can afford tech 2 modules... If you want to PVP join a newbie friendly pvp corp as they will have a recommend path to allow you to afford your pvp habit. If you want to try a lot of things Eve Uni is a good option.


* These weapon system are generally the most used weapon systems in pvp and pvpe
Projectile- Good range, dps, and you can switch damage types. Harder to master.
Missiles- Good range, dps, and you can switch damage types. Easy to master, but not as common in pvp.
Drones- Good range, and dps. Easy to master.

Don't use these:
Lasers- EM/Thermal only which limits the types of NPC you can effectively hunt.
Rails- Impact/Explosive only which limits the types of NPC you can effectively hunt.

I do recommend you set PVPing in cruisers as a short-term goal, but not an immediate term one.

Ask yourself "Could I recover from losing ten of this ship, tech 2 fitted?" When you can answer yes, you can afford to PVP in cruisers.

PVP in frigates and cruisers is quite different. Frigates are more able to pick their fights and flee unfavorable engagements. Cruisers have less capacity to flee, but have a lot more capacity to kill the opponent before their friends arrive. I recommend treating both as very different endeavours, and trying both.

The Vexor is a pretty good PvE choice if you have good drone skills. You can even passive shield tank the Vexor quite effectively if your defense skills are more shield focused due to training early as Caldari. Shield tanking also allows more drone damage mods.

People also suicide gank with Vexors in highsec though Catalysts and 'nado are far more common due to high Alpha damage.

Why think small:
[Maller, Troll Maller]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
10MN Afterburner II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Dual Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Dual Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora L
Improved Cloaking Device II
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

95 km optimal and 95 km targeting range as well. Go pop other ships. You have 77 DPS and there is very few opponents, who can hit you at that range. So you can disengage when you want. Just train all necessary skills to V and do not forget to always warp at 100 km ;)

But seriosly I found out, that I, as newbee, mostly learn in tanked ships, that give me at least few seconds to do something before pop. And Maller (not above Maller) is one of the tankiest T1 cruisers out there and have really nice powergrid, so even with low fitting skills it is not that hard to fit.

Fit for real hunters:
[Maller, hunter fit]
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II

Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

You can meta certain modules untill you get your skills. PvP fits are passive tank fits, PvE fits are active tank. For PVE you are better off with Vexor, since drones will let you adjust your damage type according to rats you will face. But so are missile launchers as well...

obviously it's still hard to fit it well