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Leaving the field without your drones. A non-automated solution.

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FoxFire Ayderan
#1 - 2015-01-15 04:46:26 UTC

Who hasn't warped away without one's drones?

Nobody, that's who. We all do it. And we even do it after having learned our lesson many times over. (Well some of us do. Blink )

Anyhow, it would be nice if when we enact a warp sequence to leave, if there was some sort of tone that would alert us to the fact that our drones are still out. This would give us a few brief seconds to stop the warp initiation and retrieve our drones.

Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2015-01-15 05:30:55 UTC
they try to scoop when you initiate warp.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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FoxFire Ayderan
#3 - 2015-01-15 05:51:57 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
they try to scoop when you initiate warp.



They do?

I guess I've only flown ships that get into warp pretty fast then.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#4 - 2015-01-15 05:54:04 UTC
if they arent right next to you when you actually enter warp then the scoop fails naturally.

or maybe this is ONLY during a DC.

hmmmmm

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2015-01-15 06:06:38 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
if they arent right next to you when you actually enter warp then the scoop fails naturally.

or maybe this is ONLY during a DC.

hmmmmm

Auto-scooping only happens when you DC.


As for forgetting one's drones...

- having the "drone return" command as a hotkey really helps.

- keeping your drone status box open (with no condensed bars) also helps you keep an eye on your drones

- did you know that if you "group" your drones (even if they are the only group in your drone bay) you can drag them back and forth between being deployed and in your ship? No right-clicking necessary!

How did you Veterans start?
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#6 - 2015-01-15 06:44:29 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
if they arent right next to you when you actually enter warp then the scoop fails naturally.

or maybe this is ONLY during a DC.

hmmmmm

Auto-scooping only happens when you DC.


As for forgetting one's drones...

- having the "drone return" command as a hotkey really helps.

- keeping your drone status box open (with no condensed bars) also helps you keep an eye on your drones

- did you know that if you "group" your drones (even if they are the only group in your drone bay) you can drag them back and forth between being deployed and in your ship? No right-clicking necessary!


Shift+R

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#7 - 2015-01-15 13:47:11 UTC
FoxFire Ayderan wrote:

Who hasn't warped away without one's drones?

Nobody, that's who. We all do it. And we even do it after having learned our lesson many times over. (Well some of us do. Blink )

Anyhow, it would be nice if when we enact a warp sequence to leave, if there was some sort of tone that would alert us to the fact that our drones are still out. This would give us a few brief seconds to stop the warp initiation and retrieve our drones.




If it's a GTFOofDodge PVP situation, then you're prolly not going to wait for you hammerII's to crawl back as your hull evaporates. Your abandoned drones are my loot for winnning the field. If it's PVE then it doesn't matter, you can just come back and get them.

What razor edge case are you citing that this is needed for?? I hope it's not "Because I am forgetfull"
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-01-15 14:33:49 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
FoxFire Ayderan wrote:

Who hasn't warped away without one's drones?

Nobody, that's who. We all do it. And we even do it after having learned our lesson many times over. (Well some of us do. Blink )

Anyhow, it would be nice if when we enact a warp sequence to leave, if there was some sort of tone that would alert us to the fact that our drones are still out. This would give us a few brief seconds to stop the warp initiation and retrieve our drones.




If it's a GTFOofDodge PVP situation, then you're prolly not going to wait for you hammerII's to crawl back as your hull evaporates. Your abandoned drones are my loot for winnning the field. If it's PVE then it doesn't matter, you can just come back and get them.

What razor edge case are you citing that this is needed for?? I hope it's not "Because I am forgetfull"


I make a lot of money scopping abandoned drones off the field when a fight is over.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Iain Cariaba
#9 - 2015-01-15 16:24:30 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
if they arent right next to you when you actually enter warp then the scoop fails naturally.

or maybe this is ONLY during a DC.

hmmmmm

Auto-scooping only happens when you DC.


As for forgetting one's drones...

- having the "drone return" command as a hotkey really helps.

- keeping your drone status box open (with no condensed bars) also helps you keep an eye on your drones

- did you know that if you "group" your drones (even if they are the only group in your drone bay) you can drag them back and forth between being deployed and in your ship? No right-clicking necessary!


Shift+R

I found it easier to remap that to Ctrl+R (which required remapping the reload shortcut) since Shift+R won't trigger as a shortcut if you were recently typing in a chat window. Once I remapped this, I no longer leave drones behind since the shortcut triggers every time.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#10 - 2015-01-15 16:44:59 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
What razor edge case are you citing that this is needed for?? I hope it's not "Because I am forgetfull"
That's exactly the case he's citing.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#11 - 2015-01-15 17:00:50 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
What razor edge case are you citing that this is needed for?? I hope it's not "Because I am forgetfull"
That's exactly the case he's citing.





Oh, OK fair enough.

Then NO, because auto correcting your forgetfulness would get rid of my ability to collect muh victory drones.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#12 - 2015-01-15 18:22:59 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
if they arent right next to you when you actually enter warp then the scoop fails naturally.

or maybe this is ONLY during a DC.

hmmmmm

Auto-scooping only happens when you DC.


As for forgetting one's drones...

- having the "drone return" command as a hotkey really helps.

- keeping your drone status box open (with no condensed bars) also helps you keep an eye on your drones

- did you know that if you "group" your drones (even if they are the only group in your drone bay) you can drag them back and forth between being deployed and in your ship? No right-clicking necessary!


Shift+R

I found it easier to remap that to Ctrl+R (which required remapping the reload shortcut) since Shift+R won't trigger as a shortcut if you were recently typing in a chat window. Once I remapped this, I no longer leave drones behind since the shortcut triggers every time.

Now THAT is a good idea.

I'm right behind you
Alundil
Rolled Out
#13 - 2015-01-15 18:24:29 UTC
Elenahina wrote:

I make a lot of money scopping abandoned drones off the field when a fight is over.

Can confirm that I love finding abandoned drones and fighters in 00 and lowsec when the ratting carriers and ishtars all panic warp as soon as a neut enters local. So funny. And pretty profitable.

I'm right behind you
FoxFire Ayderan
#14 - 2015-01-15 18:29:44 UTC  |  Edited by: FoxFire Ayderan
Serendipity Lost wrote:


Oh, OK fair enough.

Then NO, because auto correcting your forgetfulness would get rid of my ability to collect muh victory drones.



Well, this is one of those quality of life features that CCP does like to put into the game to make it a more enjoyable experience for people.

I'm largely speaking about PvE, and yes simply forgetting them. I do this enough, but always remember soon after (like during warp or once I get to station) and then have to go back to get them. It's just aggravating. Occasionally I've entirely forgotten them prior to warping to station and logging off.

So the question is, who does CCP want to please more. Those who forget their valuable drones, when a simple reminder (tone) would alleviate that (which an advanced spaceship is likely to give you), or those who profit from someone forgetting their drones because their supremely advanced spaceship couldn't remind them that they still have drones deployed before they warp away. By-the-way, most people will remember them prior to your ever finding them (in a PvE environment).

As for PvP, it's not going to matter if someone is in a get out of dodge situation and gets a tone reminding them of deployed drones. They are going to get out of dodge regardless.
Alison McGregor
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-01-15 19:24:37 UTC
But I profit off of peoples forgetfulness....
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-01-15 19:31:11 UTC
Alundil wrote:
Elenahina wrote:

I make a lot of money scopping abandoned drones off the field when a fight is over.

Can confirm that I love finding abandoned drones and fighters in 00 and lowsec when the ratting carriers and ishtars all panic warp as soon as a neut enters local. So funny. And pretty profitable.


I found some Imperial Curators a few days ago. It was a good day.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
GhostOfDoom
TheTaxless
#17 - 2015-01-15 20:09:35 UTC
FoxFire Ayderan wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:


Oh, OK fair enough.

Then NO, because auto correcting your forgetfulness would get rid of my ability to collect muh victory drones.



Well, this is one of those quality of life features that CCP does like to put into the game to make it a more enjoyable experience for people.

I'm largely speaking about PvE, and yes simply forgetting them. I do this enough, but always remember soon after (like during warp or once I get to station) and then have to go back to get them. It's just aggravating. Occasionally I've entirely forgotten them prior to warping to station and logging off.

So the question is, who does CCP want to please more. Those who forget their valuable drones, when a simple reminder (tone) would alleviate that (which an advanced spaceship is likely to give you), or those who profit from someone forgetting their drones because their supremely advanced spaceship couldn't remind them that they still have drones deployed before they warp away. By-the-way, most people will remember them prior to your ever finding them (in a PvE environment).

As for PvP, it's not going to matter if someone is in a get out of dodge situation and gets a tone reminding them of deployed drones. They are going to get out of dodge regardless.


can i just say this I have lost loads over 10 years of eve and it's part of the game.

one last thing you need to get the new app for your super advanced I phone that tells you you've left your wallet at the bar.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#18 - 2015-01-15 20:49:17 UTC
I should also add the obligatory "EVE has sound??" quote.

hint: any player worth their salt turns off sounds so they are not bothered by a plethora of other "tones" and ringings that happen for other reasons. Plus, in-game sounds get in the way of voice chatting with other players.

How did you Veterans start?
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#19 - 2015-01-15 21:45:11 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
I should also add the obligatory "EVE has sound??" quote.

hint: any player worth their salt turns off sounds so they are not bothered by a plethora of other "tones" and ringings that happen for other reasons. Plus, in-game sounds get in the way of voice chatting with other players.


I must condemn this assertion. The wormhole jump sound and the warp arrival sounds are immensely useful tools for maintaining situational awareness.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#20 - 2015-01-15 21:48:16 UTC
How many drones does a person have to forget before they consider that maybe it's time to work on a new warp-out routine that will prevent further drone loss? I mean, why should CCP do anything about solving your problem if you aren't willing to do anything about solving it either?
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