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A new design for the sansha's lineup of ships, namely the nightmare

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Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#1 - 2015-01-15 05:50:43 UTC
I know we all love the nightmare. It's an awesome ship and it's simply epic. And I don't want to step on any toes here, also keep in mind this is personal preference. But dayum the thing is ugly. It really is like something straight out of a nightmare. I mean it's a mess of a design. I don't know who decided to put a blob on a stick and mount a bunch of spikes to it. My request is simple. The title says it all. Please re-skin the nightmare. Make it more... ship looking. Right now it looks like dead protein mass on a skewer. I don't mean tweak it here and there. I'm officially requesting a complete re-skin of the ship.

If you were actually out in space and saw this thing, you would probably first laugh, then puke, then run in complete horror at it's awesome firepower, and while devastating it doesn't look formidable at all. It looks like Ugh-tok's club, maybe something a demented warrior would swing at you in world of warcraft. Ships aren't meant to be wielded by giant, drooling, one-eyed monstrosities. The phantasm looks like a cooked minnow from some depths of the ocean with spikes all over. The sansha's carrier looks like a streak of bubbly, mucousy spit that I see on the walkways of the jobsite I work at. It's not space-esque and doesn't keep the theme of something flying in space. Maybe a complete re-design of the entire sansha's lineup would be in order. There have been community ship skinning contests. Maybe a theme or an idea can be spawned from some of the runner up's and something can be created from those ideas.

Please dev's, please hear my plead. Thanks!
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#2 - 2015-01-15 05:53:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
The Sansha line is awesome. Hands off.


P.S: Most people actually like the Sansha ships.


TLDR: Too bad, live with it.
Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#3 - 2015-01-15 05:54:33 UTC
Most people? That's odd. Because every. single. person. I have talked to hates the design of it. Although not one single person I have run into hates flying one :)
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#4 - 2015-01-15 05:59:15 UTC
Aven Valkyr wrote:
Most people? That's odd. Because every. single. person. I have talked to hates the design of it. Although not one single person I have run into hates flying one :)



Well we can't all have good taste in ships apparently.
Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#5 - 2015-01-15 06:06:49 UTC
Apparently not. But just imagine for one minute the nightmare looked like this:

http://www.benprocter.com/picture/030_veh_clusthroneship_ext_090223_view1_enginesclosed_bp_jh_ps.jpg?pictureId=8129273&asGalleryImage=true

And the carrier looked like this:

http://images.wikia.com/tron/images/c/c1/Carrier01.png
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CwvrMJobNbQ/maxresdefault.jpg

I mean seriously there are thousands of ship designs out there that would look waaaaaay better for the pirate faction ships than what is currently in game. Sure you like them and maybe a small handful of people have grown to love them but what I am saying is there are much, MUCH nicer designs out there that could make the pirate ships look insanely badass while still retaining the "pirate" value in their designs..
Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#6 - 2015-01-15 06:09:11 UTC
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2015-01-15 06:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Anhenka wrote:
The Sansha line is awesome. Hands off.

Not empty quoting.

Beauty is in the eve of the beholder (or in this case... insane designer).


edit: you seem too stuck on "traditional designs" OP. Loosen up.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#8 - 2015-01-15 06:26:02 UTC
You want the nightmare to be the procurer?
Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#9 - 2015-01-15 06:26:26 UTC
Here's a good frigate design:

http://www.wallpedes.com/resize/1152x864/wallpapers/wallpapers-futuristic-spaceship-dsng-sci-fi-megaverse-dropships-wallpaper-sci-fi-wallpapers-futuristic-spaceship-dsng-megaverse-dropships.jpg

And a good cruiser design:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/239/f/e/spaceship_by_ghchew-d6jx8ck.jpg

Here's one which even has the amarrian nature in its design which is what the sansha's lineup is apparently based on:

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130415205050/halonocanon/es/images/1/14/R_lyons_05_hovercraft_sci_fi_future_futuristic_spacecraft_class1_class2_dropship_dsng.jpg

This is all stuff I pulled straight out of google images. I'm not saying to replace the designs with these ones, but just giving out ideas as to what the lineup "could" look like as opposed to what it is currently.
Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#10 - 2015-01-15 06:32:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aven Valkyr
ShahFluffers wrote:
edit: you seem too stuck on "traditional designs" OP. Loosen up.


I don't exactly think I'm being uptight about it. If they never change it, oh well. I personally fly the nightmare and love the sansha ships themselves. It's just horrid to look at. All I'm saying is, they don't look like spaceships. Far from it. IMO they are ugly. Maybe that's the intent. But since they don't look like spaceships, they don't exactly look like "pirate" spaceships either. All the other ships in eve are beautifully designed and are a pleasure to look at (barring the caldari shuttle). But I didn't post this looking for grief either. It's just an opinion. Take it or leave it. But I'm sure there's thousands of eve players who would support what I'm saying, since I have been on TS with hundreds of them and all of them seem to agree. Spending hours upon hours in the nightmare looking at the "ugly stick" as mine is named leaves me with the feeling of.. "meh". I have even bought a rokh and an abaddon just to look at something more visually pleasing, sacrificing firepower.
Aven Valkyr
Over Reaction
Ligma Grindset
#11 - 2015-01-15 06:33:40 UTC
HiddenPorpoise wrote:
You want the nightmare to be the procurer?


I'm not saying to go with that exact design. Just saying there are other designs out there that would make it look a lot nicer and still be just as mean looking.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#12 - 2015-01-15 06:49:17 UTC
I was not aware there was some requirement for what a "spaceship" looks like. If it's in space, and under it's own power, it's a spaceship.

When you build it in space, never enter atmo, and are not dependent on armor plating for defense, you can make you ships look like whatever you want to.

Stick spikes on. Make it wobbly. Have wierd outcroppings. Add more spikes. More wobble. Some random flashing lights.

Sansha Kuvakei doesn't give a **** about your particular opinion of his ships aesthetics. Of course, he's also barking mad.


But the long story made short is that given there are a large number of people who greatly like the current design, the chance of CCP redoing the models and skins into yet another generic streamlined forward facing mono hulled ship with uninteresting fins is very slim headed towards snowflake in hell.
Orange Something
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-01-15 08:01:40 UTC
Aven Valkyr wrote:
Every. single. person. I have talked to hates the design of it.


Well that's like, your opinion man.


Real talk, Sansha's ships are fine, please reskin all the ships that look bad from PBR. Like the Cheetah and Navitas.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-01-15 08:15:46 UTC
Aven Valkyr wrote:


I wouldn't fly it even if it were the best ship in the game.

Aven Valkyr wrote:
And the carrier looked like this:

http://images.wikia.com/tron/images/c/c1/Carrier01.png
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CwvrMJobNbQ/maxresdefault.jpg

I mean seriously there are thousands of ship designs out there that would look waaaaaay better for the pirate faction ships than what is currently in game. Sure you like them and maybe a small handful of people have grown to love them but what I am saying is there are much, MUCH nicer designs out there that could make the pirate ships look insanely badass while still retaining the "pirate" value in their designs..
Tron is not a good inspiration for space ships. Those things all look like crap.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.

Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#15 - 2015-01-15 08:20:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Murkar Omaristos
Anhenka wrote:
The Sansha line is awesome. Hands off.


P.S: Most people actually like the Sansha ships.


TLDR: Too bad, live with it.


^^ Exactly this. One of the best looking ships in the game, especially the nightmare. Big smile

Although I have to admit, if it were redesigned to look like the narada, I would be 100% behind that :P

A celestis redesign is needed though.....badly......
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-01-15 08:48:27 UTC
Sansha ships...... gah..... fugly.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

Helios Panala
#17 - 2015-01-15 09:11:10 UTC
Phantasm and Nightmare are fine.

Succubus, eh... whatever.

Revenant, gah! Needs less random bulges, more random spikes.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2015-01-15 09:30:42 UTC
I think the Nightmare is too straight. It could do with being somewhat more organic. Like a upright floating lobster from hell, more fitting to the primordial crustacean theme the Succubus and Phantasm emulate.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#19 - 2015-01-15 09:40:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Anhenka wrote:
The Sansha line is awesome. Hands off.


Not an empty quote.

To much individuality is being stripped from EvE's hull designs of late. Take for instance the lose of the far more original hull designs of the Moa, Crow and Exequror and there replacement by very nice but far more boring and generic models. I fear we shall lose the Dominix soon.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-01-15 09:54:24 UTC
I like the Nightmare as it is.

I also like proving your personal poll of 4 people wrong.
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