Player Features and Ideas Discussion

jump fatigue with jump bridges for non capitals is bul*shi*......... who thought up the idea of ruining rapid response: I am bearing but lookie a hostile fleet is is 10 jumps away killing people meh.... i wont go i don't want the fatigue.............. your ruining this game one patch at a time whats next cutting fleet bonuses 20%? OHNOES they has links which is an advantage better nerf it so noobies don't cry........................ Seriously remove the non capital jump fatigue its dumb its killing pvp all over the map period admit the mistake and fix it seriously its nice supers and capitals are limited but you ruined everything a JB is truly useful for

Ofc it was my choice (wasnt even far), I was out drinking and didnt have time for the eve waiting-game bullshit which this game is all about these days. Improve either range or reduce max fatigue to like 24-48hours would still have the same effect, and still be much better for players who aint got all day sitting infront of their computer. Its not a problem to avoid fatigue, but its a bad gamemechanic forcing players to wait for days, even weeks only to be able to play again. Titans have been a iron coffin for years, now you cant even move it. CCP: "just use gates", ye lol we all saw how that went ~ 6hours later..

Fatigue was a necessary evil, and a good first step into creating localisation in null. I suspect in the long run, after the sov changes, it will significantly reduce the likelyhood of things like BR ever happening again...but on the other hand, is starting to open up great small and medium-scale battles :)

As the CEO of a small gang Nullsec PvP Alliance, I have found the changes very positive. I'll admit, we live on the border of our coalition's space, which enables easy movement into active hostile space. If we lived and operated out of the "center" of the coalition space, every day PvP activity would suffer because the current warp mechanics result in a significant travel time to and from any operational base located more than 5 systems from a battlefront.

The result is people can't have their cake and eat it too. You either live in a "safe" system that's good for bearing and far from hostiles, or you live in an unsafe area with PvP on your doorstep.

I can confirm I live in a safe system eating cake all day long

and in other sectors cake is being able to haul in peace.

Exactly! The changes to JB's is absolutely ridiculous, illogical and broken. The fatigue you get per jump vs the prerequisites required, risk and cost of running a JB is completely out of proportion.

Nerf the caps even more instead, make carriers, dreads, supers and titans even more static weapons. The bigger of those capitals the higher the fatigue. Maybe make so that titans can jump once a week, supers two times, carriers and dreads tree times.. or less!


If people want a cap for moving ****, buy a rorq, JF or orca for some weird mid class cap if that's what they want.

Remove the JB fatigue for sub caps. so you can still get sub cap fleets around and with the increased capital fatigue nerf, capitals per ship would have more valuable to a fleet.

Oh yeah and why would you make it so that capitals can use normal gates???

First of all please note I am only unhappy with the jump bridge changes for subcaps.

No, I don't understand why they even allow capitals in general to use normal star gates, When wanting to nerf capital mobility, why then make it you can move the from one end of eve to another on auto pilot in empire?
Capitals have there own jump drive, that's some of the very essence in capitals.
It's like either CCP don't see straight or they don't dare taking the bull by the horns.
Because the problem is exactly the amount of caps and super caps, the mobility of those is only a problem due the high amount in the game and CCP should address that problem by further nerfing them.
Also they could give the supers even less ehp's and make it so that carriers and dreads can't dock on stations either, If they die faster that may thin out the horde and if they are less comfortable to own, less will own them i guess.

Huge subcap fleets has roamed EvE for many years now and in it self, not a problem.

Jump bridges is the candy of 0.0 and CCP just made them sugar free!
At the very least cap the fatigue on jump bridges to 24hours or so.

The real power is the huge capital blops, whoever fields the most caps wins.
reduce the problem to who ever can field the most zealots wins and you can still use caps as valuable and viable source to fight outnumbered for more than 10min with out being super blopped. Not that it can't happend it just won't be as standard.




I stand corrected then. thanks

Seriously?? Deliberate pacing?? You mean a move op that now takes weeks instead of a couple of days? Of course while your doing the move op there is no time to actually play eve. All your time is taken getting and reducing fatigue.

Sooo many fleets simply getting stood down because half the fleet has too much fatigue (or will end up with fatigue).
Having to pick and choose when you play because the time it takes to move anywhere in nulsec is a pain in the butt.
Where living on the edge of your alliance sov is the only way to get any pvp and that is against the same 15 or 20 people every day. No longer need scouts to see what the enemy is flying, just look at local, it is the same guys every day flying the same thing.


Sov changes? None but the big coalitions will be able to take and hold sov. No matter what glitzy little mini game CCP include for sov, the major coalitions simply need to be within range of anyone they don't want there and sov stays untouched. No point a small group being able to take sov when they have 40k reds within a few jumps. Large coalitions still won't fight each other so they can afford to spread out a little to ensure no-one they don't want there gets to take sov.

If CCP's long term goal is for 2 or 3 major coalitions to make up nulsec, they are on the right track. Yes there will still be a few die hard small groups around but they won't hold sov, at least not for long unless they have the "right" allies.
Current game play is anti small group and unless large coalitions suddenly disappear not much is going to change.