Warfare & Tactics

I am by no means a pro pvper, but all of the ships you mentioned would fit the bill.

Tristans are heavy in their use of drones, though they are usually (not always) kite-fit. They can be brawly, and are very effective if used correctly, like most ships.

The Incursus is probably my favorite out of that bunch. It has a lot of failings, though, so you have to know what fights to take and where. I use ABs on my Incursi because I'm an FW pilot, so MWD + scram might work better in general PvP.

I don't have much experience with the Atron in a brawl-type fight, they're used a lot for fast tackle. I assume you could throw a Small Anci Repairer and make it work brawly- It has no drones, but it will do pretty good dps compared to the Incursus and Tristan.

Finally the Comet; that's probably your best bet if you have the money. It has a good flight of drones, a good tank, and great dps.

Basically, I think your best bet is trying them all. The non-Comet ones are cheap, and losing 10-20 of them won't hurt you too much. Just try out all the fits you can find and think up, use EFT or something like that to make sure your fits will work on paper, and have some fun.

That's what the game is about anyway, yea?

Also, once you get to cruisers, Vexors are most likely going to be your go-to ship. It's fast (for a cruiser), brawls, has drones, and is just overall a great ship.

You can save a bit by going for a cheaper AB.

T2 is great and all but the Experimental 1mn AB will do the trick and save you a few isk.

Also I'd opt for a variety, say 2 of each ship with a different fitting and find what you prefer before buying 30 of the same ship/fit which you may not like the way it pvps.

Also having a few different ones, even fast tackle buffer atrons would be good fun/practice for you.

Anyway have fun, relax and prepare to be annoyed when the rush kicks in and it gets you killed. Even after years of playing Eve I still get that rush when pvp goes down.

Gets the heart racing (how sad am I?)


Also a couple of 1mil (ish) Atron fits that are good fun.

[Atron, Cheap - Neuting]
Damage Control I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I

Limited Light Neutron Blaster I
Limited Light Neutron Blaster I
Limited Light Neutron Blaster I
Small 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Antimatter Charge S x1000
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x400


[Atron, Cheapy Cheap- OD]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Beta Hull Mod Overdrive Injector
Emergency Damage Control I

Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I

Limited Light Ion Blaster I
Limited Light Ion Blaster I
Limited Light Ion Blaster I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Antimatter Charge S x1000
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S x500

It wasnt actually a fit anyone told me to equip. I googled a bit and came across that one. Could you tell me what is wrong with it and what I need to do to fix it?

Until the derptron fast tackles a nice shiny ship and the new bro gets on that nice shiny KM. I personally love playing fast tackle even though you tend to get blapped.

Initially my goal isn't to get into FW, or rather I intend to once I have spent some time in RvB to get some practice and spend some time training skills.

How would you recommend I fit either a Tristan or Incursus for the pvp I am likely to find in RvB space? I completely understand that there is no fit or ship that is suitable for every engagement, however I am looking for a ship and fit I can start with. Then as I understand better how to pilot in PvP and learn more about the whole game I can evolve and change. Basically I want something I can start with and change to suit my playstyle and needs.

I never was in RvB so I don't know how fights happen there, but if you want a recommendation it would be something like this:

[Tristan, NoHighs Tristan]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Warp Disruptor II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Hobgoblin II x5

Why:
1) low price - it should cost around 8 mil or less
2) not a tight fit and that's always a plus for a low sp pilot
3) more than enough cap life (4m 30s with good skills)
4) does not care much about electronic warfare - 'cause drones
5) buffer tank so you can focus more on pvp engagement and range control

or this pretty much the same fit, less tank but with more agility and speed (you can drop one DDA for DCU if you think you need more EHP)

having just one type of hull/fit in your hangar is like having a toolbox with only a hammer in it. there's no point in using a hammer when your system is full of loose screws.

That looks like a really nice fit! Tristan has been one of my favourite ships since I started playing. Cant really explain why, they just look damn awesome! Based on your advice, and the poster below you I will be getting myself a number of Tristan hulls so I can play around with them! Thanks!

I totally get what you are saying. I just need a starting point, and taking your advice to heart I am going to fit out the ships that was recommended in this thread. I already knew that no ship will be suitable for every encounter, and the whole point of what I want to try is to get to a point where I have some experience and knowledge below my belt so I can start making a few decisions of my own. At this point I dont know much, but more importantly, I dont really know what I dont know!

Thanks for the advice and look forward to seeing you in FW in a few months! You have a really interesting blog, and I would like to have some of the same experiences in FW that you do.

Seriously, don't bother with this.

Just join RvB and you can buy fully fitted and rigged frigates in 5-packs off corp contract in both Otela and Liekuri at very, very competitive prices.

If you're a newbro, many folk in RvB will just throw frigates at you when you start out. Heck, when I left RvB, I left behind over 30 fitted and rigged frigates to be given away (i fit 'em all out with T1 gear so any newbro could fly 'em)