EVE General Discussion

No-one cares. Don't bother saying "it takes xyz before you can fight in EVE" just because there is only one thing you have in mind. That is spectacularly shortsighted.

While "going afk" isn't against any rules of CCP, it is definitely against The New Halaima Code of Conduct, a very important rulebook in highsec. Therefore, unless you want to risk an enforcement action from an Agent of the New Order, I would suggest you confine your AFKing to places in New Eden where the Code doesn't apply - like wormhole space or nullsec.

But to your main point, I have seen no-one be as intellectually dishonest to suggest that going AFK is against the EULA or anything. In fact, CCP built the 'Autopilot' button into the game, one of the major tools facilitating AFKing and a leading cause of bot-aspirancy. However, that doesn't mean it is not against the rules of certain player groups or organizations.

Why AFKers? While I actually believe that putting risk back into highsec makes for a better game for everyone, since Eve is all about conflict and exploding spaceships you don't have to look further than the "gotta nuke something" explanation.

Go AFK, see what you get.

The OP seems to believe that there are some inherent rules where doing one thing is "right" and doing another is "wrong".

Im afraid he is mistaken. The only rules are the ones you make for yourself.

Go AFK, God doesn't care.

God was cast out of New Eden for being a troll.

There can be consequences to going AFK, if you're not willing to accept those consequences you shouldn't go AFK.

AFK mining in a tanked and rigged Procurer in high sec. Fine. Very fine indeed.

With regard to the PLEXing, I actually earn roughly 3 to 4 months subs in one hour in real life.

I do however PLEX my accounts purely because I personally feel if you can't PLEX out of spare change ISK floating about you are not organizing your game well.

That said I have never AFK hauled or mined. The ISK just seems to turn up and build up all by itself. its not my fault if it keeps turning up.

I was noticing a great deal of confusion and rage among highsec gamers and thought a little bit of simple clarity would assist and it seems most posters are in agreement which is nice to see

and i suppose a final point to make would be...

*just relax its a game, have some fun and remember....Game of Thrones is highly distracting*

With the assumption (incorrect as it might be) that CODE pilots follow their own rules, it's likely that these other pilots generally "do" follow the code ... but happened to pull one of the typical things of hisec -- "Oh, buzzer for [laundry|food|door|etc.] has gone off, I'll just be a minute. What could possibly go wrong if I stay in space?"

Code or no, that thinking is what got them killed.

That made me laugh! XD

The New Halaima Code of Conduct and James 315's associated manifesto's clearly explain why mining, or hauling, or autopiloting while AFK is bad for Eve. Players who do this are trying to gain something, either assets or time, while expending no effort on their part. This tendency to maximize gain while minimizing effort is the heart of botting.

So, its clear that players who AFK WOULD bot if only the rules allowed it. It is the logical conclusion of someone who wants to make more while doing less. If CCP were to institute some loosening of the rules regarding botting some of those who now just AFK would move towards automation. A little more loosening and more would start down this dark path. Soon the fledgling AFKer has become a hardened, exploitive botter. AFKing is BAD, mkay?

And, with the emergence of the New Order of Highsec, its stupid.

Only an idiot or a completely uneducated newbie OR a highsec miner (but I repeat myself) would think its perfectly OK to undock an expensive but untanked ship, siddle up next to an asteroid or ice block in a public space, start the lasers... and then go do the laundry. And yet they do it ALL DAY LONG. Then, to top things off, when they are educated about their bad decision making process they get hostile and refuse to accept that, "What?!? Someone can shoot my ship? GRIEFER!".

Players need to learn that highsec is as dangerous and as full of killers as any low-sec or null-sec system. In fact, there are probably more in a typical highsec ice belt system than in some random low-sec system. If you AFK in highsec, you WILL be shot. Just because some players have avoided it until now doesn't mean it won't happen tonight... or tomorrow. Look at the CODE. killboard. Its filled with plenty of players who thought they could AFK and get away with it.

Well, they didn't. And neither can you.

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