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Do you have to have a permit to mine in high sec?

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Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#161 - 2015-01-09 16:48:26 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


You are not safe doing anything anywhere

Lil Sol wants a vampire master.

Any hints?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#162 - 2015-01-09 16:53:59 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


You are not safe doing anything anywhere

Lil Sol wants a vampire master.

Any hints?


When they want you, they will find you

Or so Im told

I wouldnt know anythin about nothin

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#163 - 2015-01-09 17:04:04 UTC
Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:
Suicide gank is the definition of griefing.

There is no other objective than to ruin players day.

There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.


Actually you can make a ton of isk through suicide ganking. Most people will assume that a ganker is a part of CODE, but they forget that the ganking community is much larger than that.

For example, you will have players who scan tech 1 haulers with alts, and then blow up ones with valuable loot, by suicide ganking it with a cheap ship. Then an alt will loot the wreck.

You could easily make a billion isk in one hit if you get lucky, only losing some ship worth tens of millions.

So you are mistaken in your assumptions about suicide ganking.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#164 - 2015-01-09 17:05:23 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


You are not safe doing anything anywhere

Lil Sol wants a vampire master.

Any hints?


When they want you, they will find you

Or so Im told

I wouldnt know anythin about nothin


If you build it, they will come. Straight

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#165 - 2015-01-09 17:47:58 UTC
Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:
Suicide gank is the definition of griefing.

There is no other objective than to ruin players day.

There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.
The idea that PvP is griefing and the idea that the purpose of a game is to grind to gain virtual [something of value] seem to go hand in hand.

When you forget that it is possible to play games for fun, you forget that people might just be doing things for fun, and start ranting about objectives.

Also, no griefing in EVE.

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2015-01-09 20:39:58 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


You are not safe doing anything anywhere


Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#167 - 2015-01-09 20:48:29 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.


We're not the only people who gank. You're not 100% safe in a 1.0 using that fit, though it's *highly* unlikely you'll be ganked.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#168 - 2015-01-09 20:51:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


You are not safe doing anything anywhere


Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.


Yeah, cos CODE are the only threat in the universe.

BTW Marge, Im being sarcastic.

If you think 100% safety exists anywhere, you dont know what game you are playing.

Also... if thats all you put on your skiffs, you arent paranoid enough.

Demerius Xenocratus wrote:

Wrong..... unless you .... fit extremely expensive storyline modules.


Oh look, you actually say you are wrong in your answer

Its ok

I forgive you

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2015-01-10 00:33:34 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


You are not safe doing anything anywhere


Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.


Yeah, cos CODE are the only threat in the universe.

BTW Marge, Im being sarcastic.

If you think 100% safety exists anywhere, you dont know what game you are playing.

Also... if thats all you put on your skiffs, you arent paranoid enough.

Demerius Xenocratus wrote:

Wrong..... unless you .... fit extremely expensive storyline modules.


Oh look, you actually say you are wrong in your answer

Its ok

I forgive you


People don't actually do that...do they? My point is that you can be 100% safe in highsec if you aren't a complete dumb.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#170 - 2015-01-10 00:37:08 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Wrong. I can 100% guarantee you that a skiff fit with a DCU II, an AIF II and some shield rigs and mine in 0.6 or above you will not be targeted for a gank unless you either beg CODE repeatedly to try or fit extremely expensive storyline modules. It's just not worth it. Highsec as a whole is almost completely safe unless you are stupid or new and don't read forums, maps, local, or understand engagement mechanics.


We're not the only people who gank. You're not 100% safe in a 1.0 using that fit, though it's *highly* unlikely you'll be ganked.


Be honest though you guys are responsible for most of the ganking and you or anybody else is not going to touch a skiff unless it has zero tank or they've got super shiny things fitted. A t2 fit skiff with a DCU in 0.6+ is not going to be touched unless the pilot is specially despised.
Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
#171 - 2015-01-10 12:18:50 UTC
idealy you should tank your miner, so it takes as lots of gankers to kill you, the more the better. When you know the right peeps you can sell the killrights and make nice profits P

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#172 - 2015-01-10 12:34:43 UTC
Prt Scr wrote:
idealy you should tank your miner, so it takes as lots of gankers to kill you, the more the better. When you know the right peeps you can sell the killrights and make nice profits P
Selling the killrights of -10s sure is an honest business.

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Solecist Project
#173 - 2015-01-10 12:41:09 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Prt Scr wrote:
idealy you should tank your miner, so it takes as lots of gankers to kill you, the more the better. When you know the right peeps you can sell the killrights and make nice profits P
Selling the killrights of -10s sure is an honest business.

It actually is. There is no scam involved, because people pay without even being asked or motivated fo.

Lots of idiots who pay the second they see you,
without realising your secstatus and ignoring the message on screen.

Happened to me mostly when I instaundocked.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#174 - 2015-01-10 12:42:54 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
you can be 100% safe in highsec if you aren't a complete dumb.


You fail english? That's unpossible. As is your assertion that you can ever be 100% safe. Especially in Hisec.

Demerius Xenocratus wrote:

Be honest though you guys (CODE - ed.) are responsible for most of the ganking and you or anybody else is not going to touch a skiff unless it has zero tank or they've got super shiny things fitted.


The magnitude of how wrong you are is just staggering.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#175 - 2015-01-10 12:45:01 UTC
Sol Project wrote:

Lil Sol wants a vampire master.

Any hints?


You need to contract Sanguinare Vampiris.
Solecist Project
#176 - 2015-01-10 13:21:55 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sol Project wrote:

Lil Sol wants a vampire master.

Any hints?


You need to contract Sanguinare Vampiris.

"Sanguinare Vampiris is the disease that leads to Vampirism."

Ewww ... reminds me of how much I hate the Scroll in contracts.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Brutus Utama
State War Academy
Caldari State
#177 - 2015-01-12 13:42:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Brutus Utama
As a miner myself who has had run ins with CODE, the best thing to do to deal with them is fly a proc/skiff....

the yield is slightly less and you have a smaller cargo hold but it will keep you alive....

i have been hit by 2 code guys once in my proc and managed to survive the encounter one even died before concord arrived.....

flying an expensive exhumer (hulk/mack) is basically asking to be shot.... there is so many times when i have been on a belt and some gankers arrive and drop 2-3 macks/hulks within a minute or 2.

If yuou fly one of the tanked ships (skiff/procurer) chances are they will leave you alone as its not worth their time...

But as said above add them to your contacts at -10 and they will stand out when they join the system.

Mining solo is better for isk etc but also gets boring i used to be a solo miner and then i joined a corp which is both more interesting as i now do other things rather than just mine and also gives you some friends. just be careful with the corp some are not in it to help other players but to help themselves.

but if you find a decent corp it would in my opinion be a good idea to join, an orca boost can hugely increase you mining efficiency and some corps even offer a freighter to haul your ores for you (can save alot of time)

Gankers just attack everything they might be able to kill if its worth enough isk.

For added security mine in a system/belt with a hulk.... they will be the first target...