EVE General Discussion

I'd like more control over features, for example I'd love to add touches of grey to my hair manually if I wanted, or have different size beards based on how I'd like to look (a spade beard would be awesome) and some 'old man' face fitting round glasses, not the lame bomber glasses. and a cigar..

But past that, there is plenty of room for more avatar play, and I think it can be done in a way that's not silly, and works well with eve. I'd love WiS to be a thing for anyone who wants that, with bars, corp meeting rooms, and dressup. You can put money into it, or chose not to. But give the choice. I'd also love to see things like cloning into a legion solder and exploring old relics for new tech and things.

I don't see a point in like manually mining an asteroid outside of the ship, that type is a bit pointless. Boarding parties for ship on ship combat is also pointless, as by the time you deployed your legions onto the other ship, the other ship is most likely destroyed. (this would take a complete combat rewrite to be able to disable a ship)

There are ways to expand, and give more options that are not forced. If you want to play eve via the space aspect, and want to ignore legion/valk/WiS you should be able to. But if you want to enhance your experience, you should have the option to pick and chose what features and experiences you want to add. That's how I see where New Eden, not eve, could become a grand thing. CCP's old vision of the most comprehensive scfi game, could become a reality. minus aliens, humans are dicks enough we don't need some non human life form.

Yup. That will be easier once they move the log in screen to the launcher: then CCP isn't forced to try to make the EVE engine do All The Things(TM). That said, some things, like EVA, will be really awkward with two clients.



You don't think that distracted them from their original vision? You believe their original vision involved their game engine as a virtual platform for real-world fashion designers?

Fascinating.

The original vision was for a gigantic, life-like sci-fi universe. It didn't involve fashion, at least not beyond establishing and reinforcing lore--the old sketches for the different factions look nothing like the clothes that eventually appeared in the character creator during the real-world-designer phase. It didn't involve World of Darkness, either.



The point of EVE 2.0 is to get rid of the "old game" problem. I agree that there's no point pouring new wine into old skins, so as I've posted earlier, I expect any significant extension of EVE to follow when CCP feels that they've cleaned out the cruft and built a system that's good for the next decade, which is what they're doing now.

my momma said i was the brightest rock in the pile

WiS, Legion, EVA, whatever, could be amazing.

Just imagine...

You're travelling through the very distant depths of null when you come across the remains of what was once a player outpost, you decide to prep your legion suit and board to see if any of the riches that were once kept here can be salvaged.

While poking around you eventually manage to find a hangar that has survived pretty much unscathed, it contains a repairable T2 cruiser and a collection of expensive modules as well as other assorted bits and pieces. You'll have to decide whether to return home in your own ship or fix the cruiser, but the modules alone have made this trip worthwhile.

You decide to take the cruiser, it's worth a lot more isk but the trip back will be much more dangerous. Unfortunately while you're preparing the ship to depart with your haul you're ambushed and killed.

Turns out a group of Legionnaires had been using the wreck as an incredibly ramshackle base while they poked around on the lucrative planets located in this sytem. Out here on the corners of known space they can explore large open maps killing rogue drones and looting the mineral and technology caches they stockpile.

You awake in a fresh clone back at your corps home station, you decide to head down to the offices to watch the Valkyrie tournament starting soon with your corp-mates. You just hope this time the team you backed to win comes through, it's about time you had some good luck.



Or alternatively...

You boot up Legion, the splash screen tells you about the latest dropsuits you can buy with real money. It'll give you a real edge in a fight but somehow you just can't seem to find it in yourself to care because for some reason someone thought to take inspiration from Call of Duty instead of Day Z and/or Planetside.

On your other moniter your Capsuleer sits in a locked room staring into space. Never shall these two worlds meet.

Maybe the grumpy girly is talking to me.

Who cares? Just grumpy. ^_^

Apparently WiS is taking a little round through the EVE blogosphere...

http://eveoganda.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/walking-in-stations-revisited.html

http://sandciderandspaceships.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/patience-soon-well-be-crip-walkin-in.html

Coincidence? Something cooking? Or just that the post-Incarna children are ending their 3 years tenures and someone wonders how to replace them with other players now that it's obvious that EVE is what it is, which is all what EVE will be forever. A game which 9+ million people chose NOT to play after trying it for free.

If CCP pursues the One Character / Multiple Games concept that they have been talking about lately, that may start bridging the gap... at least in people minds.

If I can take Ranger 1 and play (as the same character) in EVE, Valkyrie, and Legion... this begins to make it seem more natural to have that kick ass character you've developed over the last few years doing more than sitting in a pod or in a barely furnished room.

If we need to log into different games to do different things, so be it.

If I opened that damn door and it automatically fired up the Legion client, I"m good with that.

If they add another stair down from my hanger balcony that leads to the fighter dock, and if I go down it my Valkyrie client is fired up by the time I hit the bottom... outstanding!

The key being that it's the same character, the same account, and what happens in one affects the other... as far as ISK, purchases, ownership (of goods or eventually perhaps territory)... it's treated as all happening to or being done by Ranger 1 (for good or ill).

Of course, the more seamless the transition the better, but in effect each time you enter a different door (or go down a different stair) you are switching into an entirely different game. One that hopefully looks as identical as possible while "crossing over".

If 1st person Avatars don't lend themselves well to EVE's internal architecture and/or graphic's engine... that's fine. Then move Ranger 1 smoothly into a game that is designed for Avatar game play. Then move R1 seamlessly into a game designed for rapid fighter combat... and then into whatever else your little heart dreams up.

Just make sure it's the same character (account) and that there is complete continuity between the games (environments).