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Relic/Data sites in W Space, all guarded?
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Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-07 00:41:30 UTC
Asking after getting conflicting info, on another thread it was stated that there are relic and data sites in wormholes that are unguarded as well as those that are guarded, however the eve wiki stats that all WH data/relic sites will have sleepers.


So which is it? Typically I would assume the Wiki is correct but after the recent changes, figured maybe that was one of them..

Im trying my damnedest as a new player to make my way doing exploration, but pretty much what I am finding is hisec is practically worthless, lowsec is less populous but very high risk, virtually without exception I have been bounced every time I enter lowsec and decloak at the data or relic site, even where there are only 4 or 5 people on local, it seems someone is always looking.

Just trying to figure out my options. I hate mining, and missions kinda get boring after a while, exploring is kinda fun but so far the payoff is pretty much nothing in hisec, and death in losec.
Quanah Comanche
#2 - 2015-01-07 00:44:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Quanah Comanche
One more time. Pirate Faction sites, ie. Sansha, Angel etc are not guarded. The ones without a faction name are. And WHs can be much more dangerous than low. But the rewards can be good. Your call. That's why it is fun! Keep skilling up and learning the ropes.


And someone who knows how needs to update the Wiki I guess.
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#3 - 2015-01-07 00:45:43 UTC  |  Edited by: scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Twitch Seilus wrote:
Asking after getting conflicting info, on another thread it was stated that there are relic and data sites in wormholes that are unguarded as well as those that are guarded, however the eve wiki stats that all WH data/relic sites will have sleepers.


So which is it? Typically I would assume the Wiki is correct but after the recent changes, figured maybe that was one of them..

Im trying my damnedest as a new player to make my way doing exploration, but pretty much what I am finding is hisec is practically worthless, lowsec is less populous but very high risk, virtually without exception I have been bounced every time I enter lowsec and decloak at the data or relic site, even where there are only 4 or 5 people on local, it seems someone is always looking.

Just trying to figure out my options. I hate mining, and missions kinda get boring after a while, exploring is kinda fun but so far the payoff is pretty much nothing in hisec, and death in losec.

WH Relic/Data sites will have sleepers. Null sec Relic/Data sites that are in WH's will not have any NPC's.
You will see the difference as you scan, if it has a faction name it's a null site.

Bolded, underlined, and italicized for clarity.
Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-01-07 01:01:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Twitch Seilus
scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:

WH Relic/Data sites will have sleepers. Null sec Relic/Data sites that are in WH's will not have any NPC's.
You will see the difference as you scan, if it has a faction name it's a null site.



"nulls that are in wormholes"


if its in nullsec its not in wormhole space? right?

I mean, I know there are wormholes that lead to nullsec space and wormholes that lead to "uncharted wormhole space" or atleast thats how I read it..

Im talking about space that is -1.0 and called something like J09375 or whatever and are "unclaimable" have no stations.
Jez Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-01-07 01:12:55 UTC
ccp recently added null sec exploration sites to c1-c3 class wormholes.
Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-01-07 01:15:32 UTC
Jez Amatin wrote:
ccp recently added null sec exploration sites to c1-c3 class wormholes.



Oh that answers my question, great, more options.
Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-01-07 02:01:18 UTC
Jez Amatin wrote:
ccp recently added null sec exploration sites to c1-c3 class wormholes.


Ok, how do you know what is a C-1, C-2 , C-3 wormhole..

I don't see any designation listed under info.
Quanah Comanche
#8 - 2015-01-07 02:22:42 UTC

When you show info:

Unknown parts of space C1, C2 or C3
Dangerous unknown parts of space C4 or C5
Deadly unknown parts of space C6
Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-01-07 02:30:17 UTC
Gotcha, thanks
Quanah Comanche
#10 - 2015-01-07 02:51:19 UTC
Just expect to get blowed up. A lot.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#11 - 2015-01-07 03:30:19 UTC
Regardless of wormhole class:
Data sites with sleepers all start with the following word: Unsecured
Relic sites with sleepers all start with the following word: Forgotten


All other data and relic sites in 'Unknown' wormholes (C1-C3) are now 00-style exploration sites and have no NPC hostiles/rats (though there might very well be capsuleer hostiles

I'm right behind you
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-01-07 07:54:04 UTC
Do ghost sites spawn in C1-C3? I recall they probably do, and it's another thing to watch out for.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Kupena
Xenophobics Asylum
#13 - 2015-01-07 08:35:14 UTC
Ghost sites spawn(ed) in wormholes, albeit they were quite rare to see. Not sure if ghost sites exist anymore.

I think sleeper data caches don't spawn in wormholes, but it would be nice to be corrected on this :p.
minuseb
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#14 - 2015-01-07 08:39:45 UTC
Twitch Seilus wrote:
Jez Amatin wrote:
ccp recently added null sec exploration sites to c1-c3 class wormholes.


Ok, how do you know what is a C-1, C-2 , C-3 wormhole..

I don't see any designation listed under info.


or you can google the system name Jxxxx and you will get even details like wh effects
Ceejay Johnston
GP-MC Holdings
#15 - 2015-01-07 08:56:20 UTC
Or everyone could just use this website.

http://wh.pasta.gg/

It will tell you the

Class
Known Statics
An indication of the current occupents
A breakdown of the latest kill
Link to Zkillboard for the WH

Your welcome. God speed. Happy Hacking
Frygok
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-01-07 09:15:06 UTC
Kupena wrote:
Ghost sites spawn(ed) in wormholes, albeit they were quite rare to see. Not sure if ghost sites exist anymore.

I think sleeper data caches don't spawn in wormholes, but it would be nice to be corrected on this :p.


Ghost sites do exist in WH still - I had 2 just last week.

Also OP, WH's for exploration isk making is actually quite cool. Yes, you have the possibility of getting ganked, and you'll be paranoid while spamming through the mini-game, but it beats the tediousness of 0.0 exploration by miles. I had a c2 pop up last week with 7-8 angel/sansha data/relic sites available. That was quite a solid isk reward for an hour of exploration in a cheap cov ops.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#17 - 2015-01-07 14:51:46 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Do ghost sites spawn in C1-C3? I recall they probably do, and it's another thing to watch out for.

Yes they have a chance to spawn in any type of system.

I'm right behind you
Twitch Seilus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-01-07 16:37:31 UTC
Just wanted to pop in and say thank you, I pulled 10 million out of a WH Gurista data site last night, not much to some but for me that is HUGE.

Thanks again for the help!
Quanah Comanche
#19 - 2015-01-07 17:47:13 UTC
Ceejay Johnston wrote:
Or everyone could just use this website.

http://wh.pasta.gg/

It will tell you the

Class
Known Statics
An indication of the current occupents
A breakdown of the latest kill
Link to Zkillboard for the WH

Your welcome. God speed. Happy Hacking



Good to have on your ingame browser for a quick check.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#20 - 2015-01-07 18:23:41 UTC
Twitch Seilus wrote:
Just wanted to pop in and say thank you, I pulled 10 million out of a WH Gurista data site last night, not much to some but for me that is HUGE.

Thanks again for the help!

Cool - nice take out of the 00 data tbh. Enjoy wspace. Shoot you later. :)

I'm right behind you