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What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring?

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Kale Raleigh
Sons of Khaled
#1 - 2015-01-07 00:51:12 UTC
I have decided that I want to try exploring for my main source of income to fund my PvP. Currently I can use a heron with what I believe to be just barely trained up enough to use the ship/equipment.

In order to explore effectively both in low and in wh space I thought it would be worth the time training to use a buzzard since it can fit a covert ops cloak. Am I wrong? Would I be fine with just a T1 cloak in a heron until I'm trained? Is it even worth training a T2 just for exploring in case I discover a different method to make isk that is better than exploring?

Other than that I would like to know what else I require to make isk effectively while I explore. Whether it be game knowledge or skills.

Also, where is the best place to find relic and data sites? Should I journey to null or is low a better option.

Thanks for your time

o7
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#2 - 2015-01-07 01:07:43 UTC
Kale Raleigh wrote:
I have decided that I want to try exploring for my main source of income to fund my PvP. Currently I can use a heron with what I believe to be just barely trained up enough to use the ship/equipment.

In order to explore effectively both in low and in wh space I thought it would be worth the time training to use a buzzard since it can fit a covert ops cloak. Am I wrong? Would I be fine with just a T1 cloak in a heron until I'm trained? Is it even worth training a T2 just for exploring in case I discover a different method to make isk that is better than exploring?

Other than that I would like to know what else I require to make isk effectively while I explore. Whether it be game knowledge or skills.

Also, where is the best place to find relic and data sites? Should I journey to null or is low a better option.

Thanks for your time

o7


Yes Buzzard, yes covert ops cloaking device II, Yes arch and hack V, yes null and wormholes.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-01-07 01:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Kale Raleigh wrote:
In order to explore effectively both in low and in wh space I thought it would be worth the time training to use a buzzard since it can fit a covert ops cloak. Am I wrong? Would I be fine with just a T1 cloak in a heron until I'm trained? Is it even worth training a T2 just for exploring in case I discover a different method to make isk that is better than exploring?

For wormhole exploration, yes a covert ops cloak is by far the best choice.

For nullsec, it really depends. There are just as many people exploring in cheap T1 frigate hulls as there are T2 hulls and Astero's.

The advantage of the T1 hull is the price. You can lose a lot of them and it won't hurt your wallet much. As exploration is often a solo activity and you will be jumping into systems you don't know much about, T1's give you a cheap loss if you jump into a bubble camp and/or are scanned down and killed while you are exploring.

For wormholes, the ability to warp cloaked provides an advantage to hulls that can fit a covops cloak.

My advice would be to explore null in a T1 hull while you are training skills and if the income/activity suits you, then move to T2 or faction ship when you can and then go exploring wormholes.

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Other than that I would like to know what else I require to make isk effectively while I explore. Whether it be game knowledge or skills.


Rather than repeating work already written, here's a few links:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploration_guide
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Exploration
http://www.toptiertactics.com/21341/eve-online-exploration-guide-billions-and-billions-of-isk/#axzz3O60oubEU

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Also, where is the best place to find relic and data sites? Should I journey to null or is low a better option.

Either is fine. Relic sites will give you more income that data sites as a general rule and there are more specialist sites that provide higher income again (sleeper cache, ghost sites, etc.) but you'll find them both in null and low.

Wormholes will eventually give you the highsect income of all.
Serene Repose
#4 - 2015-01-07 02:08:45 UTC
Apparently all it takes is large cahoneys.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Quanah Comanche
#5 - 2015-01-07 02:20:49 UTC
Since there are no other posts on this very subject, just a Heron with a probe launcher will do.
Nevil Oscillator
#6 - 2015-01-07 04:40:34 UTC
There are plenty of Wormholes just not so many that go where you want them to.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#7 - 2015-01-07 04:45:28 UTC
Kale Raleigh wrote:
What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring?


Friends.

Firstly, you want an interceptor to jump through and check for bubbles and campers.
Secondly, you want a cloaked scanning ship.
Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after.
Finally, you want a salvager.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-01-07 05:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Kale Raleigh wrote:
What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring?


Friends.

Firstly, you want an interceptor to jump through and check for bubbles and campers.
Secondly, you want a cloaked scanning ship.
Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after.
Finally, you want a salvager.

Uhh,

Exploring =/= Having to destroy stuff. Not even in WHs, so long as you can tank the damage.
Nearly all of those four of those things can be done with an Interceptor. Not standard, but I'm just sayin'.

Friends is always more time efficient, but only ever really needed in PvP.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-01-07 11:49:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Kale Raleigh wrote:
What do I need for wormhole/lowsec exploring?


Friends.

Firstly, you want an interceptor to jump through and check for bubbles and campers.
Secondly, you want a cloaked scanning ship.
Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after.
Finally, you want a salvager.

Uhh,

Exploring =/= Having to destroy stuff. Not even in WHs, so long as you can tank the damage.
Nearly all of those four of those things can be done with an Interceptor. Not standard, but I'm just sayin'.

Friends is always more time efficient, but only ever really needed in PvP.

You can't do sleeper relic/data sites in an interceptor, the rats will insta-pop you. But the interceptor explorer is a very valid option for non-combat exploration in Null/WH with high skills, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_vJ3e6gS8

I'm my own NPC alt.

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-01-07 12:19:11 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:

You can't do sleeper relic/data sites in an interceptor, the rats will insta-pop you. But the interceptor explorer is a very valid option for non-combat exploration in Null/WH with high skills, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_vJ3e6gS8

Like I said,

Quote:
Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after.

Nearly.

Also, I've already seen JonnyPew's video.
Kharaxus
Eve Academy Corporation
#11 - 2015-01-07 12:50:12 UTC
Kale Raleigh wrote:
I have decided that I want to try exploring for my main source of income to fund my PvP.


Don't do exploring to fund pvp.

My advice would be to go to FW instead and do missions for LPs, using a SB.

Or do pvp in FW for LPs using T1 frigates.

Buy items from LP store, sell items on market for ISK.

Either way - using T1 frigates, or SB in FW, you are going to learn basic mechanics for doing WH space in the long run.

The intention to do WH space, or to "explore" to fund pvp is a little skewed.

When you are ready to do WH space, thats a whole different science than "making ISK for pvp".
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#12 - 2015-01-07 13:16:20 UTC
The problem with a buzzard is that it's harder to fit for exploration bonuses then a heron and as others allready said if you loose a heron its much cheaper then lossing a buzzard.
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#13 - 2015-01-07 13:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Chal0ner


That one is - which I learnt the hard way - not totally accurate regarding ghost sites.
Basically the timer at which npc spawn may be set to more or less 0 (i.e. the second you start a hack).
Kind of "ouch". Especially in a frig.
Solecist Project
#14 - 2015-01-07 14:05:26 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Apparently all it takes is large cahoneys boobees.

Fixed your mistake. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kharaxus
Eve Academy Corporation
#15 - 2015-01-07 14:30:38 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS.

Fixed your mistake. :)


Fixed it better.
Solecist Project
#16 - 2015-01-07 14:36:01 UTC
Kharaxus wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS.

Fixed your mistake. :)


Fixed it better.

That covers it very well actually!

And I apologise to the banana et al, didn't mean offense.
Even petite ones are gigantic in the eyes of those who enjoy staring at them!

This topic of holes and balls makes me feel all weird.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kharaxus
Eve Academy Corporation
#17 - 2015-01-07 14:51:30 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Kharaxus wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS.

Fixed your mistake. :)


Fixed it better.

That covers it very well actually!

And I apologise to the banana et al, didn't mean offense.
Even petite ones are gigantic in the eyes of those who enjoy staring at them!

This topic of holes and balls makes me feel all weird.



Reminded me of Calamity Jane's line in Deadwood: "I don't drink where I'm the only ****** one with balls."
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-01-07 16:41:33 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Kharaxus wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Apparently all it takes is large cahoneysboobees BALLS.

Fixed your mistake. :)


Fixed it better.

That covers it very well actually!

And I apologise to the banana et al, didn't mean offense.
Even petite ones are gigantic in the eyes of those who enjoy staring at them!

This topic of holes and balls makes me feel all weird.



Proud wearer of a C cup and 0 (natural) balls !
Also the question is not how "long" the "banana" is but rather how "wide" the "banana" is :P

On topic however, I can confirm that WH exploration gives you enough to sustain through losing a 1 or 2 Asteros here and there :D

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-01-07 19:48:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:

You can't do sleeper relic/data sites in an interceptor, the rats will insta-pop you. But the interceptor explorer is a very valid option for non-combat exploration in Null/WH with high skills, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_vJ3e6gS8

Like I said,

Quote:
Thirdly you want some ships to destroy the sleepers or the players you are after.

Nearly.

Also, I've already seen JonnyPew's video.

Yup, right. But the point of the almost uncatchable ceptor explorer is, that you can do non-combat relic sites solo without the need to change ships or fits. The drawback is the non-bonused hull requiring good skills to be effective.

I'm my own NPC alt.

DarkBringer The Second
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-01-10 15:25:36 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:


Thanks for the info m8.
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