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Mining Drone improvement idea

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Adjal Kardjaval
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-01-06 03:07:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Adjal Kardjaval
1.1 The "sentry" mining Drone

Objective
To have a efficient mining drone that requires MORE management then normal mining drones, but offers a greater yield, Mining drone should be less efficient in solo mining situations, but more efficient in supported mining groups (mining ops) when fielded from higher level mining operations.

The Birati

A stationary mining drone that will mine ore at a quick pace until it's hold is full at which point it will jettison it's ore hold in a quickly deteriorating jettison capsule.
Jettison capsules act like jet cans, except their cargo hold is restricted to 900 m³, and they only last 90 seconds before they disappear. And they can only be tractored by t2 tractor beams (or a capital tractor beam)

Optimal Range
25 km

Activation time / duration
180 s

Mining amount
300 m³ (at max skills.) this should make them more effective then current mining drones, but since they are stationary the yield would require the player to pick it up the ore.(or for the support ship to tractor it and deposit it in their ore holds)

Bandwidth Needed
15 Mbit/sec (so only 3 can be fielded by a

Drone volume 10 m³

"Unique traits"
Drone will not mine if within 5,000 meters of drone controller's Mining Barges, or Exhumers. (this does not apply to mining frigates, or capital ships)
Drone will auto target asteroids for mining, (mining will need to be started by drone controller) will target closest asteroid first work outwards.

Required Skills
Mining Drone Operation V
Mining V
Drones IV


I had a idea for a cruiser sized O.R.E mining support ship (manly focus on quick anti pirate intervention of a large area with miner boosting capabilities) But i need to flesh it out more because the role i'm aiming for can easily be filled by easily by a battlecruiser.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2015-01-06 03:24:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Daichi Yamato
That thing mines more than double a T2 mining drone!

The benefits of a sentry miner would be that it doesnt have to move back and forth and thus saves a load of time. Id prefer it with less yield but a much longer cycle time for higher mining efficiency on fat rocks.

Tech 1
Range: 15km (boosted by drone sharp shooting? lol)
Duration: 120 seconds
Yield: 35m3
Bandwidth/m3: 10m3

In the vast majority of circumstances these will mine better than typical mining drones without making them completely redundant.

edit- and it may be simpler to just have them stop mining if their host isnt within 2.5km

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#3 - 2015-01-06 05:50:07 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
That thing mines more than double a T2 mining drone!

The benefits of a sentry miner would be that it doesnt have to move back and forth and thus saves a load of time. Id prefer it with less yield but a much longer cycle time for higher mining efficiency on fat rocks.

Tech 1
Range: 15km (boosted by drone sharp shooting? lol)
Duration: 120 seconds
Yield: 35m3
Bandwidth/m3: 10m3

In the vast majority of circumstances these will mine better than typical mining drones without making them completely redundant.

edit- and it may be simpler to just have them stop mining if their host isnt within 2.5km



up the band with and give orcas a little bit of a bonus to these stats maybe we will start seeing orcas in belts rather than the undock
Adjal Kardjaval
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2015-01-06 18:06:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Adjal Kardjaval
Daichi Yamato wrote:
That thing mines more than double a T2 mining drone!

The benefits of a sentry miner would be that it doesnt have to move back and forth and thus saves a load of time. Id prefer it with less yield but a much longer cycle time for higher mining efficiency on fat rocks.

Tech 1
Range: 15km (boosted by drone sharp shooting? lol)
Duration: 120 seconds
Yield: 35m3
Bandwidth/m3: 10m3

In the vast majority of circumstances these will mine better than typical mining drones without making them completely redundant.

edit- and it may be simpler to just have them stop mining if their host isnt within 2.5km



Actually, a t2 mining drone at all lvl 5 gives 62 m3 per cycle (per EFT with a mining drone 2 in a orca and all lvl 5 skills), but then has to return the ore. This would mine at 100m3 per cycle, but then the ore has to be picked up a hulks base speed with all lvl 5 skills is 175m per sec, which makes a hulk 1/5 the speed of a mining drone. just if a hulk pilot wants to pick up the ore they have a much longer travel time.Furthermore, these drones take up twice the bandwidth, and twic ethe bay size as a mining drone. they are larger. So they would only be a real benefit to teh ships with the larger drone bays.

I have adjusted the OP. please review and give me your feed back.
Bob Maths
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-01-06 21:09:34 UTC
Mobile Mining Unit.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2015-01-06 21:45:57 UTC
Wants sentry mining drone at medium drone bandwidth... with double t2 mining drone yield.. and 9 minutes to scoop its 'jet can', not to mention fly 5 of them at once...


How about sentry bandwidth (25), sentry size (25m/3), 3 times t2 mining drone yield and 45 second "jetcan" scoop.

This way, an exhumer can fly 2, which would yield as much as 6 t2 mining drones, and it would reward those players who are really at their computer by being able to scoop the can in under a minute. "Jetcans" should not be tractorable by MTU either further forcing the player to pull the cans him/herself.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Adjal Kardjaval
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-01-06 22:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Adjal Kardjaval
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Wants sentry mining drone at medium drone bandwidth... with double t2 mining drone yield.. and 9 minutes to scoop its 'jet can', not to mention fly 5 of them at once...


How about sentry bandwidth (25), sentry size (25m/3), 3 times t2 mining drone yield and 45 second "jetcan" scoop.

This way, an exhumer can fly 2, which would yield as much as 6 t2 mining drones, and it would reward those players who are really at their computer by being able to scoop the can in under a minute. "Jetcans" should not be tractorable by MTU either further forcing the player to pull the cans him/herself.



I've changed bandwidth to 15 mbit pers second (allowing exhumers and barges to field only 3 of them at a time) and made it so the jet capsule dissappears after 90 seconds, and can only be tractored by a t2 tracor beam, or a captiol tactor beam (this would prevent MTU from beign able to tractor the cargo)

What do you think of these changes, also, these do NOT have a yeild that is double a t3 mining drone, (a t2 mining drone, per eft is 62 m3, with all skills maxxed to 5) this would be 100m3 (per minute, three minute cycle time) with all skills lvl 5.
Adjal Kardjaval
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-01-06 22:33:09 UTC
Bob Maths wrote:
Mobile Mining Unit.



That gives me a idea