EVE General Discussion

Rumor has it its coming to PC soon(tm) but for now you'll have to buy a ps3 and play DUST.

Avatar gameplay in EVE is dead in every possible sense.

There are no plans. And if there were any plans, they would come after a potential Legion success and the end of its development cycle (minimum of 5 years from now), and as a fourth game based on EVE Online franchise (after DUST, Valkyrie and Legion).

The existing ingame content is not being developed nor updated, and sooner or later will become redundant and its upkeep will be deemed too much. This means that CQs will be removed sometime in the future.

This does not affect the character creator. There's two developers making stuff for use at the CC (additional clothes).

So this is it. EVE Online is a spaceships game and will always be spaceships only.

By the way, this thread will be closed as redundant.

And you are not supposed to talk about what CCP does not want to listen.

It would appear there is quite a large demand for character driven content. Sadly there seems to be a player driven paradigm in which one can only exist without the other. Clearly a nonsense.

Oh, there is still demand. Most of the die-hard WiSers are unsubbed, though, and CCP is not interested on avatar gameplay. CCP Seagull moved from "unlikely, but anyway would be a new game" to "we're not interested any longer, this is a spaceships game".

And then, CCP Seagull is THE ONE to talk about the matter. Her plans are for spaceships only. Add on that everyone who worked with ingame avatar assets was fired (specially the Atlanta guys, to whom we owe almost everything). Plus, the fact that the almighty Art Team was never interested in avatars and certainly is too busy with spaceship features as to think about the silly legacy avatars. (They also are not interested in player logos, in case you wonder why they need to PBR every texture map right after they V3'ed them and why it takes 3 bloody years to put some bloody decals on some bloody spaceships).

So essentially you have a Executive Producer whose plans don't need nor want avatars, an Art Team whose word is Law and never wanted avatars to begin with and of course the unsubbing of everyone waiting for avatar gameplay.

It's dead, Jim.

Not today and not by me.

Here's a thought: this is the subscriber base EVE will have as long as EVE stays what it is.

Thinking EVE will have some kind of success explosion while remaining space ships flying between stations is a dream.

Mmm, decompression injuries.

CCP missed the boat, fell in the water and is fighting to stay afloat.

That summarizes what has become increasingly obvious since Incarna. No matter what everyone expected from avatar content/gameplay, it was the only way that EVE stopped standing on one leg.

EVE is a great game, but it's only a fraction of how great it would have been with avatar gameplay. EVE needed a fresh start, and everything since Incarna is second chance, going on with what we got instead of starting anew in unexplored grounds of gameplay, content and player interaction.

And lest not forget that spaceships gameplay faces its own issues; ask twenty veterans and you'll get twenty different and mutually excludent lists of those issues...

Bullpucky.

How is somehow having an avatar that can walk around and touch things (aka the thing we can all do in real life simply by standing up) somehow supposed to enhance a game about spaceships? If Avatar gameplay is so important, when not play that aweful Star Wars MMo or that aweful Star Trek MMO (and why didn't these games that have avatar game play kill EVE as predicted by every WiS fanatic)?

Avatars are a distraction to those of us who like what EVE is about. Avatars don't make trading easier or building ships faster. It doesn't help me kill rats faster or do missions faster. And unless you do some wonky and out of place first person shooter crap ala DUST it can't help you conquer or hold space. Not without a huge re-write of the game that would take years.

I think many (could even be most) EVE players tend to be practical/pragmatic types who don't much care about 'fluff' and 'immersion' (this is why the EVE role play community is microscopic compared to like communities in other games). Avatar gameplay is either useless fluff (yay i can watch a visual representation of myself sit down i a space station and play poker) or contrived fluff (yay I now have to go EVE from my ship in dangerous space in other to hack that node while someone scans me down and pops my ship, yay).

No thanks. Being Captain of a futuristic space battleship is enough, and CCP has proven to be a good SMALL game company that can put out an excellent FOCUSED product, but it's also one that failed when it got to big and failed when it tried to do more than EVE. CCP repeating the past by trying to 'branch out' and 'get more players' can only end in failure (again).