EVE General Discussion

OP

You being bad at the game is a you proble, not a game problem. I would ask for your stuff but I doubt there is much of value.

You silly kids missed the point. In a sandbox game you shouldn't have to have rely on multiple accounts, friends or otherwise, to experience so much of the content.

In other sandbox games you aren't forced to play with others to experience the majority of the content. The prevalence of which takes away from the sandboxyness of EVE. Some people like to play on their own in a world populated by other people without actually playing with other people, believe it or not.

The more versatile EVE is, the more people it will attract and maintain. If you answer to lack of solo play is in EVE is, "get some friends", you are a irrational, counter-productive, and silly person who should really refrain from posting.

It seems some other words fit your post better, and as such I have inserted them for you.

Heres a eve Qoute F-----Brilliant "Yes I know you're tackled, please die quietly" - Zagdul

No. Everything you have posted no.

It is quite simply not at all important whether or not you get to fly loads of accounts at once. Eve costs are fine, and i think i'm right in saying that CCP will be making some changes to the multiboxing (keystroke cloning) rules to actually try to prevent people from doing what you are talking about doing. I firmly agree with this course of action and consider players like you to be one of the most irritating parts of the game .

I think the vast majority of established players would prefer the eve community to grow slowly with decent players than get cheaper and be flooded with thousands of l33t kids like almost every other unplayable MMO.

OP please consider just leaving the game alone and changing your tactics instead of trying to ruin the game to fit your PvE loving single player playstyle.

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Ahh shadup

This post was originally written almost three years ago and as software/hardware evolves, so must our stance on what goes within our game. It has become increasingly difficult for us to track the capabilities of various pieces of software over the years as their number, as well as the features they offer, increase greatly in number.

In other words, it is unfortunately impractical for us to evaluate whether specific pieces of software can be used without breaking EVE's EULA/ToS. This post should not be taken as endorsement for utilizing specific pieces of software/hardware with EVE, but as a guideline to what is acceptable.

Our general stance towards the concept of multiboxing has not changed but we cannot guarantee that the EULA is being upheld should you use any of the software/hardware mentioned by name in this post, nor will we at EVE customer support be able to officially endorse or sanction specific third party multiboxing programs.

Players wishing to multibox are responsible for familiarizing themselves with our EULA and Terms of Service, the following clauses in particular are of much relevance to this topic:

EULA:
6. CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.

ToS:
21. You will not attempt to decipher, hack into or interfere with any transmissions to or from the EVE Online servers, nor will you try to create or use any third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game.

The old, out of date, post can be seen below as it originally appeared:

"Hello there,

To make a long story short, automation of gameplay is not permitted; players must be manually issuing the commands to control their character(s) at all times.

Our stance on programs such as Synergy and hardware/software combination such as the G15 keyboard is that they can be legitimately used as long as gameplay isn't automated. Synergy allows you to move your mouse cursor to multiple different monitors which are hooked up to different computers and we do not have any qualms with players using the program for this purpose. If Synergy was used in some way to control your accounts for you without a need for you to be at your keyboard, then that would not be allowed, but I am not aware of such a functionality with this program. If Synergy is used in conjunction with some other program to automate gameplay, it would not be permitted. G15 "macros" which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping).

An exceedingly complex G15 macro which would effectively automate gameplay, such as mining, without a need for the player to be present at his keyboard would be against the EULA, regardless of whether the player utilizing said macro is sitting at his keyboard at the time!

Lastly, multiboxing is allowed, and programs designed for multiboxing in mind which allow a player to manually issue the same command to multiple game clients at the same time are allowed. In the same vein as what has been stated above, the player must be manually sending the commands; if a program is automating those commands for you, then it would be considered a breach of our EULA.

I hope this clears up this matter."
also I wouldnt care less if they didnt allow it .
It would be cheaper for me in the Long run anyway.
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If we were discussing a game such as Freelancer, or any of the various other sandbox single player games your argument would be perfectly valid. As EVE is a MMO it is not. I have yet to encounter a MMO of ANY type that has all of it's content readily accessible for solo play. Cooperative play yields greater results, and always has. Pushing away from the social aspect of the game limits your own options, you deny yourself access to the majority of the content.

Definition - What does Sandbox mean?

A sandbox is a style of game in which minimal character limitations are placed on the gamer, allowing the gamer to roam and change a virtual world at will. In contrast to a progression-style game, a sandbox game emphasizes roaming and allows a gamer to select tasks. Instead of featuring segmented areas or numbered levels, a sandbox game usually occurs in a “world” to which the gamer has full access from start to finish.

A sandbox game is also known as an open-world or free-roaming game.
Techopedia explains Sandbox

Gamers play sandbox games according to their preference. These games include structured elements – such as mini-games, tasks, submissions and storylines – that may be ignored by gamers. In fact, the sandbox game's nonlinear nature creates storyline challenges for game designers. For this reason, tasks and side missions usually follow a progression, where tasks are unlocked upon successful task completion.

Sandbox game types vary. Massive multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG) generally include a mixture of sandbox and progression gaming and heavily depend on emergent interactive user gameplay for retaining non-progression-focused gamers. Modern "beat 'em ups" and first-person shooters have delved more deeply into the sandbox realm with titles like the "Grand Theft Auto" series, "Red Dead Redemption," "Assassin’s Creed" and others, allowing gamers to run and gun wherever the mood takes them.

In spite of their name, various sandbox games continue to impose restrictions at some stages of the game environment. This can be due the game's design limitations, or can be short-run, in-game limitations, such as some locked areas in games that are unlocked once certain milestones are achieved

1)So The Point Is I will Play Damn well as I Please!
2)Especially If Im Paying for It.
3)What Im asking Is Simple.
4)Make Eve Free! No Subs!
5)However You gotta Pay For the Ships.
6)Im Not Ret3rd3d Of course CCP Must Get Paid!

...but why would you do that?

Oh, GOD NO.

EVE is not a pay-to-win. But what you described, if I'm reading that right, is that those who want to win have to pay...

That's great. Ok everyone, get the Lemonade Stand out --We've gotta pay for this Cap Fleet. No Titans, though, we're limited to $10,000 only.