Missions & Complexes

Hey,

I was running dozens of 4-8/10s in Guristas space in the past two weeks..
Now I moved to angel nullsec with my corp and I tried my first 7/10...

I was running the Gurista sites in a Tengu and it was really really easy , now that I moved into Angel space I have trouble to tank all the incoming DPS..

Before we moved to Angel space I had ~1400DPS tank on my Tengu vs. Guristas , against Angels - no matter what I try - Im getting 700max which simply isnt enough (at least for a 7/10)..

Then there's the damage application.. any tips how to play against Angels? Against Guristas I normally did volleys of ~1500DMG
now my volleys are down to 800 (Nova HMs because of the DMG-type of course) which is horribly frustrating as it takes AGES! to pop a Angel BS..

So did I miss anything? Is the Tengu simply to weak against Angels? I only have 12m SP which may be a problem aswell , but if the Tengu isnt the right ship to fly in Angel space , what else then? A HAM Legion?

Please , help me Im desperate as that was my main income and now its more or less gone because I cant solo the DEDs

Oops - sorry.

[Tengu, DED Angel (?)]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist B-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


Thats what Im currently running... Im using the Cap. Reg. Matrix because it (at least) gives me capstable 700DPS tank...
DCII for unexpected PVP situations but tbh its not mandatory as there are barely neuts in the systems we took..

should be shooting scourge, kinetic is angels second weakest resist anyway.

The missiles angels shoot are usually thermal damage.

Sorry! Fit mentioned above isnt my actual fit - using a RF10mn AB
But yeah - gonna test that :) thanks for the advices.. damage is not coming from the missiles anyways , its their projectiles/lasers or whatever theyre using , guess its projectile as theyre flying minmatar ships :P

But yeah , gonna try thermal defl. fields and the damage rigs.. Guess as soon as I dont have the problem with the projectiles anymore I probably dont need the permatank..

If theres more advices - let me hear it please :P


But thanks so far,
Marissa

I pulled a preliminary list of NPC's and NPC ship datums off of the evewiki and http://eveinfo.com/npcships/ and ran them through http://sisterofeve.ru/gmdc/

Assumptions;
Angel 10/10 -Angel Cartel Naval Shipyard
DPS is a linear function
Targets are moving at their maximum velocity.
All skills 5/5. Relevant implants at 5/6.

Per launcher dps using the best ammo/launcher combinations against targets of various classes is;

Destroyer - Gistor Seizer/Thrasher;

Kinetic Damage type - CN HAM = 7 dps. Modified Kinetic dps, for lvl's 4/ 5 controlling skill, is 8.4/8.75
Explosive Damage type - CN HAM or Precision Heavy = 7 dps

Battlecruiser - Gistatis Legatus;

Kinetic Damage type - CN HAM = 15 dps. Modified Kinetic dps, for lvl's 4/ 5 controlling skill, is 18/18.75
Explosive Damage type - CN HAM = 17 dps

Battleship - Gist Throne;

Kinetic Damage type - Rage HAM = 11 dps. Modified Kinetic dps, for lvl's 4/ 5 controlling skill, is 13.2/13.75
Explosive Damage type - Rage HAM = 14 dps

Battleship Commmander - Domination Seraphim;

Kinetic Damage type - CN HAM >= Rage HAM = 10 dps. Modified Kinetic dps, for lvl's 4/ 5 controlling skill, is 12/12.5
Explosive Damage type - CN HAM = 11 dps

Each of these numbers is a minimum of the function at some velocity, signature radius combination hence actual DPS/launcher will be strictly higher.

As the resist profile on a Gist Throne is 58 kinetic 47 explosive it's "technically" more dps to switch to Nova Rage HAMs; practically speaking it's probably less then or equal to Scourge Rage HAM so there's no point in reloading just for the damage.

For practical skill levels (i.e. Caldari Offensive Systems 4 or 5) just use kinetic ammo. Even with Caldari Offensive Systems at level 3 you'll still do more damage with Kinetic damage types most of the time.