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Next pirate faction to receive their own ships?
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Makavi Astro
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-02 05:48:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Makavi Astro
Hey people, after seeing how Sisters got themselves ships, and now Mordu's legion did, I started to wonder who the next one could be?
After looking into big npc factions I have derived 3 possible candidates:
Ammatar mandate - amarr-minmatar
Khanid kingdom - amarr-caldari
Thukker tribe - minmatar-caldari?

The appearance of races in the pirate factions as of ISIS is as follows:
Gallente:5 Caldari:3 Amarr:3 Minmatar:3

So we can see that gallente will most likely not be featured next time, but instead we will get 3 factions with an equal mix of amarr/caldari/minmatar, which will bring up their numbers of appearance to 5.

But which one will be next? I say ammatar.
What do you think?
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#2 - 2015-01-02 06:13:09 UTC
"Thread title" wrote:
Next pirate faction to receive their own ships?

Makavi Astro wrote:
But which one will be next? I say ammatar.
What do you think?


Ammatar isn't pirate...
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#3 - 2015-01-02 06:35:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Inkuras
EoM

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-01-02 06:45:52 UTC
There are already ships produced by the Khanid Kingdom and Thukker Tribe. All those snazzy black missile spewing Amarr hulls are Khanid ships. Same goes for the Thukker with T2 Minmatar hulls.

Grrr.
Makavi Astro
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-01-02 07:06:49 UTC
Rawketsled wrote:
"Thread title" wrote:
Next pirate faction to receive their own ships?

Makavi Astro wrote:
But which one will be next? I say ammatar.
What do you think?


Ammatar isn't pirate...

Well sisters aren't exactly pirate as well
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#6 - 2015-01-02 07:08:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Dun'Gal
Liam Inkuras wrote:
EOM

This is of course assuming we get another one.
Makavi Astro
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-01-02 07:17:26 UTC
Dun'Gal wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
EOM

This is of course assuming we get another one.

What is EOM?
Fujiko MaXjolt
ACME HARDWARE
#8 - 2015-01-02 07:31:36 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
EOM


Oh god, please this Big smile
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Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2015-01-02 07:52:56 UTC
Makavi Astro wrote:
Dun'Gal wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
EOM

This is of course assuming we get another one.

What is EOM?


End Of Message
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-01-02 08:26:37 UTC
Makavi Astro wrote:
Hey people, after seeing how Sisters got themselves ships, and now Mordu's legion did, I started to wonder who the next one could be?
After looking into big npc factions I have derived 3 possible candidates:
Ammatar mandate - amarr-minmatar
Khanid kingdom - amarr-caldari
Thukker tribe - minmatar-caldari?

The appearance of races in the pirate factions as of ISIS is as follows:
Gallente:5 Caldari:3 Amarr:3 Minmatar:3

So we can see that gallente will most likely not be featured next time, but instead we will get 3 factions with an equal mix of amarr/caldari/minmatar, which will bring up their numbers of appearance to 5.

But which one will be next? I say ammatar.
What do you think?

The Ammatar Mandate didn't really innovate anything as far as I'm aware. They just fly Minmatar ships with the colours of the Nefantar Tribe (themselves).

Khanid and Thukker have both made ships already. They are Tech II vessels listed as being the main Empire faction's.

Interceptor, Amarr:
Malediction, developer: Khanid Innovations

Covert Ops, Amarr:
Anathema, developer: Khanid Innovations

Covert Ops, Minmatar:
Cheetah, developer: Thukker Mix

Assault Frigate, Amarr:
Vengeance, developer: Khanid Innovations

Assault Frigate, Minmatar:
Jaguar, developer: Thukker Mix

Interdictor, Amarr:
Heretic, developer: Khanid Innovations

Recon Ships, Amarr:
Curse, developer: Khanid Innovations

Heavy Assault Cruiser, Amarr:
Sacrilege, developer: Khanid Innovations

Heavy Assault Cruiser, Minmatar:
Vagabond, developer: Thukker Mix

Command Ships, Amarr:
Damnation, developer: Khanid Innovations

Black Ops, Minmatar:
Panther, developer: Thukker Mix

Jump Freighter, Minmatar:
Nomad, developer: Thukker Mix

See, now? Do some browsing though the game first.
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#11 - 2015-01-02 08:42:51 UTC
Makavi Astro wrote:
Dun'Gal wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
EOM

This is of course assuming we get another one.

What is EOM?

Equilibrium of Mankind
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#12 - 2015-01-02 08:52:23 UTC
While we are on the subject, and after actually reading through the evelopedia information, I feel like CCP should really get on giving the EoM some unique ships - I mean after being around in the New Eden cluster for as long as they apparently have, one would think they'd have come up with there own ships by now... instead of just retrofitting amarrian ships.
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-01-02 09:33:34 UTC
Makavi Astro wrote:
Hey people, after seeing how Sisters got themselves ships, and now Mordu's legion did, I started to wonder who the next one could be?
After looking into big npc factions I have derived 3 possible candidates:
Ammatar mandate - amarr-minmatar
Khanid kingdom - amarr-caldari
Thukker tribe - minmatar-caldari?

The appearance of races in the pirate factions as of ISIS is as follows:
Gallente:5 Caldari:3 Amarr:3 Minmatar:3

So we can see that gallente will most likely not be featured next time, but instead we will get 3 factions with an equal mix of amarr/caldari/minmatar, which will bring up their numbers of appearance to 5.

But which one will be next? I say ammatar.
What do you think?


Incorrect on the Gallente.
The pirate factions are as follows (including SOE and Mordu which are pirate because reasons) :

Guristas - Caldari + Gallente
Mordu's Legion - Caldari + Gallente
Serpentis - Gallente + Minmatar
Angel Cartel - Gallente + Minmatar
Sansha's Nation - Amarr + Caldari
Blood Raider Covenant - Amarr + Minmatar
Sisters of EVE - Amarr + Gallente

Usually pirate faction ships are built on the primary and secondary attributes that they borrow from parent races (Take SOE for example - they combine the Amarr armor doctrine with the Gallente drone doctrine ).
The fact that the race appears 5 times doesn't mean that a possible future pirate faction that has a Gallente inspiration is off the board.
If I'm to hazard a guess the next pirate faction will combine the Minmatar with the Caldari.

Fornicate The Constabulary !
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#14 - 2015-01-02 10:26:31 UTC

Ammatar mandate - not pirate
Khanid kingdom - not pirate
Thukker tribe - closer to pirate than the other two

EoM - not an actual faction ingame

What about Syndicate ?


Then again not sure CCP should force ships for all of factions... people will start to whine about sheips not being as they want them(SOE) or not being combat oriented engouth.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#15 - 2015-01-02 10:56:01 UTC
I wouldn't call Syndicate a faction. Possibly a syndication of factions and outlaws, primarily the Serpentis.

But EoM features as rats in certain missions. Pretty sure they have their own corp. They definitely have their own flag/icon in agent briefings.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-01-02 11:02:30 UTC
I thought the answer was rather simple:
Only factions that make ships, make ships.
Solhild
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-01-02 11:43:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Solhild
When CCP released the Mordu ships, they explained that the hole in the pirate faction skills was Caldari/Minmatar. They explained Mordu's ships needed unique models but couldln't have that skill mix for lore reasons. These ships are great by the way.

My hope is that CCP develop a Minmatar/Caldari pirate faction in the lore. This could easily be from an arm of the Thukker tribe, or something created to reflect a mix of tribes and megacorp escapees working outside of Empire politics.

Ishukone/Thukker dissidents could make sense?

relevant - 4th paragraph down
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-01-02 12:00:52 UTC
Solhild wrote:
When CCP released the Mordu ships, they explained that the hole in the pirate faction skills was Caldari/Minmatar. They explained Mordu's ships needed unique models but couldln't have that skill mix for lore reasons. These ships are great by the way.

My hope is that CCP develop a Minmatar/Caldari pirate faction in the lore. This could easily be from an arm of the Thukker tribe, or something created to reflect a mix of tribes and megacorp escapees working outside of Empire politics.

Ishukone/Thukker dissidents could make sense?

relevant - 4th paragraph down

I don't think it would be as easy to add factions now, especially as CCP seems to be orientating the game lore with capsuleers more, rather than the Empires.
Sapheni
Black Moon Mining
#19 - 2015-01-02 12:39:15 UTC
Makavi Astro wrote:
Hey people, after seeing how Sisters got themselves ships, and now Mordu's legion did, I started to wonder who the next one could be?

What do you think?


CONCORD

I've always wanted a DED cruiser.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-01-02 12:50:51 UTC
Sapheni wrote:
Makavi Astro wrote:
Hey people, after seeing how Sisters got themselves ships, and now Mordu's legion did, I started to wonder who the next one could be?

What do you think?


CONCORD

I've always wanted a DED cruiser.

Best become a Dev then.
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