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Living in a Shattered system?!

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xPhyrax
Petrolinvest
#1 - 2014-12-31 17:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: xPhyrax
Ok, so I've been in a shattered system for about a week now, and it's REALLY quiet, which is odd because it has a HS static. Which begs the question, could one live out of a shattered system? Solo?! ( with scanner alt of course, so not 'technically solo' )

Now I know the limitations with the standard shattered systems ( which I'm in ), I'm aware larger ships can come in, raid, and leave, a pos isn't possible due to the 'no moons' aspect but I figure here's how something like this would go down!


  • Get a cloaky scanner alt inside the WH, bookmark everything ( corp bookmarks ).
  • ( optional ) Bring a few giant freight containers, maybe a depot for the important stuff ( since it will go into reinforcement mode )


( I realize a few of you are going, "WTF do you need freight containers for" well I like to store junk, so yea, and if they get blown up, no big deal, same goes for the depot )


  • Run sites, use the HS exit to drop off loot.
  • Once a week, collect loot in an indy, and sell it at the closest trade center.
  • Depending on the income, maybe pay RFF ( Red Frog Freight ) to ship all of it to a central station.


Judging by what I've seen in this system the past week, it's insanely quiet here, only seen a few ships in and out and they were mainly BCs with a few ventures here and there day tripping the gas sites.

This system seems to be on a cycle of gas sites every few days, then data/relic sites... http://i.imgur.com/hUsVQtv.jpg
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#2 - 2014-12-31 18:00:07 UTC
I'll now be putting alts in J001890 and waiting, cloaked, for you to run sites.

Happy New Year!
xPhyrax
Petrolinvest
#3 - 2014-12-31 18:12:58 UTC
The amount of money I make in null doing data/relic would offset any, if not all, losses I will incur in this system, so feel free. This is EvE after-all, I'll just take pride in the fact that you consider me such a threat that you must pay extra each month ( be it actual cash, or in game time ) just to bring 'alts' to camp me. Judging by your kill-board, I don't have much to worry about aside from any structures, and those are disposable anyhow. I'll be waiting!

On a side note, try providing some actual conversation outside of bantering and empty threats. This thread was posted to spark conversation about the idea of living in a shattered system solo. Losing ships and getting killed in WH's are a part of EvE life and are already understood and therefore unnecessary to bring up in this conversation/thread.
CivilWars
Half Empty
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#4 - 2014-12-31 19:10:09 UTC
I put an alt in a shattered hole for about a week before I decided to use it for other things. Why not just do one pilot in a tengu or stratios to run the relic sites, and a second in a cloaky hauler? No need for containers.

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xPhyrax
Petrolinvest
#5 - 2014-12-31 19:24:48 UTC
I really didn't think about using my alt as a cloaky hauler, great idea.

As for the fighter pilot, I can't really run a tengu, Proteus is my only option atm, and with the price tag it carries, I'd rather not risk that. This C2 can be solo'd by a well fitted drake I believe, and the cost effectiveness is more adequate as well.

Though now that I think about it, I'd have to have the depot ( in cargo at minimum ) to refit the drake for data/relic I believe.

Andrew Jester
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Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2014-12-31 22:55:26 UTC
xPhyrax wrote:
On a side note, try providing some actual conversation outside of bantering and empty threats. This thread was posted to spark conversation about the idea of living in a shattered system solo. Losing ships and getting killed in WH's are a part of EvE life and are already understood and therefore unnecessary to bring up in this conversation/thread.


lmfao do you realise where you are or did you take a wrong turn on your way to GD?

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#7 - 2015-01-01 00:53:34 UTC
xPhyrax wrote:
As for the fighter pilot, I can't really run a tengu, Proteus is my only option atm, and with the price tag it carries, I'd rather not risk that. This C2 can be solo'd by a well fitted drake I believe, and the cost effectiveness is more adequate as well.

Though now that I think about it, I'd have to have the depot ( in cargo at minimum ) to refit the drake for data/relic I believe.

I'd recommend a buffer (buffer, not passive regen) fit Gila. It gets MUCH more applied DPS than any of Proteus, Drake or Tengu and the tank is so beefy you won't need to worry much about triggers in a c2. Gila is also in a rather sweet spot as far as price is concerned, since the price is considerably lower than a t3 cruiser and even though it is significantly more than the price of a BC, the advantages are significant enough to justify it.

Also, you ALWAYS want to have depots in cargo for reserve probes, cloak, warp core stabilizers, extra damage mods, extra tank mods and whatever else you suspect you might need for some corner case. A buffer Gila could even survive in PvP if you fit an MWD instead of the AB and a Warp Disruptor instead of an invul. on it from a depot.
Freddie Merrcury
Fukushima Daiichi Electric Power Co.
#8 - 2015-01-01 01:29:12 UTC
my favorite part of this thread is the part where someone made jester look like an ******* by posting relevant discussion right below him

I been kicked out of better homes than this.

xPhyrax
Petrolinvest
#9 - 2015-01-01 02:08:28 UTC
I'm looking at the drake as more of a 'throw-away' ship, meaning if I get blown up, I really won't care, the cost is so low enough more than likely by the time i'm actually lazy enough to stop watching d-scan, or in some cases watching netflix on one monitor while my alt and main are on the other two, I've already made the ~70m to make up for it.

I REALLY love the Gila, it's stats are really nice, i've used it a few times to quickly clear HS 4/10s, but the average cost is just too high at this point, and knowing that I've never 'lived' in a wormhole, it seems quite futile to spend so much only to more than likely screw up and go boom.

My null-sec exploration nets me about 500m a week ( 2 hrs a day, 2-3 days a week ) which can in-turn fund roughly 4-5 drakes, 7 if the market sucks, fully fit. Though, at this point I'm not sure how much I can make in the WH either. But at minimum, 4 drakes a week SHOULD be enough to fit the amount of time I can play, depending how derpy I am.

I'm looking to run something like this, feel free to rant how crappy the fit is, I won't mind.

Quote:

[Drake, Wh Drake build (solo)]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
10MN Afterburner I
Partial Weapon Navigation

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Nosferatu I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Hobgoblin II x5


Current skills gives me about 384 dps and 2249 volley, got a burner on it to get that transversal up if I have to, as well as outrun someone is possible ( probably not ), as well as mitigate scrams. Got a NOS on there to mitigate the neuts, which are inevitable. Really wanted a T2 painter, so I went for the next best, according to EFT ( not in-game atm so couldn't really verify and i'm sleepy )

I KINDA want to have a depo to refit the drake for pure salvage ( yea I went there ) to clean up the site after it's done. Hell, I might even bring an MTU to do the cleanup while I fly, depending if it's a lazy day or not. For safety and cost-effectiveness I'd keep depo on the cloaky hauler of course :)

Love that idea btw...
Andrew Jester
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Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2015-01-01 05:00:25 UTC
Freddie Merrcury wrote:
my favorite part of this thread is the part where someone made jester look like an ******* by posting relevant discussion right below him


I aim to please Big smile I just call out when necessary.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#11 - 2015-01-01 14:06:23 UTC
this is one of those topics that keeps coming back. shattered should change how to approach it tho. this was my post a long time ago. might have some help.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2731644#post2731644

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xPhyrax
Petrolinvest
#12 - 2015-01-01 16:52:26 UTC
I did a good bit of researching on the WH nomadic lifestyle super late last night, and like that thread, a lot of people talk of using the Orca. I really forgot you can carry ships etc in that big whale of a ship, and while the idea of being able to bring multiple ships along sounds great, the cost isn't with me at the moment.

I think for now I'm going to go with the cloaky hauler idea, I have an alt that can fly one, even an orca or fenrir. We'll see how this works out.
Quanah Comanche
#13 - 2015-01-01 19:03:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Quanah Comanche
Orca works well. Was a long blog by a fellow who did it for months. I will look.


In the meantime: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101419
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2015-01-03 20:16:00 UTC
On a side note, I approve your intention to make a cleanup in at least a single shattered system. Since people don't live in those, they tend to become really cluttered with sigs and are pain to scan - unless you want any site there is.
Orlacc
#15 - 2015-01-03 21:38:51 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
On a side note, I approve your intention to make a cleanup in at least a single shattered system. Since people don't live in those, they tend to become really cluttered with sigs and are pain to scan - unless you want any site there is.



Yes please get all these Gas sigs outta here!

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

xPhyrax
Petrolinvest
#16 - 2015-01-09 18:04:15 UTC
Update on progress:

I've successfully got my cloaky hauler in the wormhole, brought along some re-fits for the drake for scanning and cloaking if I want to afk, as well as some other stuffs.

Day 1: I LIVE.... and come to the realization that my Drake skills SUCK

Using this fit:

[Drake, Wh Drake build (solo)]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Nosferatu I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Hobgoblin II x5



I warped into a small sleeper anom, roughly 4 frigs, 3 cruisers, 2-3 batteries... and let me tell you, those cruisers hurt... Lasted maybe 10m before I had to warp out to let the shield recharge.

Everywhere I've read I see that you need to tank at least 4-500 omni dps for sleepers in C2s, but for the life of me, i can't get any BC ( reasonably priced ) to tank that in EFT. So, guess I'm going to fiddle with EFT while i'm out of state to see what I can come up with.
Orlacc
#17 - 2015-01-09 18:26:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Cant fit Large Regoliths?


I used a fit similar to this but it has been a long while and not sure if it is still viable:

[Drake]
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Hobgoblin II x5

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Niskin
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#18 - 2015-01-09 18:35:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Niskin
xPhyrax wrote:
[Drake, Wh Drake build (solo)]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Nosferatu I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Hobgoblin II x5


Reading Fail EDIT: I have large shield extenders, not mediums. You will definitely want to skill up to fit large's.

You shouldn't need that high of a tank for a C2 site. My Drake has a similar fit and only has tank issues with some of the battleships in those anoms. If you flip one SPR II for a DC II and one Invuln II for a Target Painter that's the fit I have been using. I've altered it a bit since then, changing the SPR II to a PDS II and the AB II to a Micro Jump Drive, but haven't tested the tank since then. My skills for that ship and fit are pretty good though, so that might make a difference.

With a full rack of Heavy Missiles, using T1 ammo and a Target Painter, stuff dies pretty quick. Only the battleships take any real time to kill.

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Andrew Jester
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Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2015-01-09 18:50:20 UTC
meta MSE my ******* face. Get rid of the nos it does nothing for you

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Paul Vashar
CTHS
#20 - 2015-01-09 19:11:36 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
meta MSE my ******* face. Get rid of the nos it does nothing for you

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