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Do you have to have a permit to mine in high sec?

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Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#1 - 2015-01-01 03:21:54 UTC
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#2 - 2015-01-01 03:40:51 UTC
1. Stop mining
2. Run mission

Eve is a military economy, think about it.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

Arisidana
Amadari Traders
#3 - 2015-01-01 03:42:41 UTC
You should mine in lowsec, I heard Code is scared of lowsec.
Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#4 - 2015-01-01 03:50:04 UTC
Why does this "code" do what they do? they are alienating an entire solo profession because why?
Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#5 - 2015-01-01 03:50:57 UTC
Isnt mining in lowsec just as dangerous?
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-01-01 03:52:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?

CODE. is a high-sec ganking alliance.

Anything CODE says is Role Play, and shouldn't be taken seriously.

So the answer is very simple, and you can absolutely continue solo play. You are not 'fully safe' anywhere, but you can take precautions to ensure that such a thing won't happen so often (if at all).

So, add the alliance "CODE." as a contact, and set them to -10.0. When they appear in Local, they'll have a red mark on their portrait, and you'll be able to see it, so you'll know what they're going to do. Dock up preemptively.

But the biggest thing you can do is don't be fully AFK.
Check your D-Scan every now and then, and browse Local when you feel like it for players with Negative Security Status (positive Security Status players can still gank you, but it's less likely. You always lose Security Status with Highsec ganks).

Getting a Procurer or a Skiff is also a good idea.
Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#7 - 2015-01-01 03:56:54 UTC
Thats the thing. I understand ganking experienced players who know better and know alot about this game but im pretty new. I mean, ive had this account for a few years, but ive only ever played for like 3 months. After they killed my ship, I have nothing.... I have like an ibis 10 jumps away but thats it... I had a mackinaw....
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-01-01 03:57:50 UTC
So, no, it is a sandbox game, you are able to do whatever you want, it is not illegal to mine in any part of New Eden.
People can of course kill you... Anywhere. So it's up to you to be prepared in advance, and predict the situation ahead.

You can 'be safe,' but don't think it is a given right.
Memphis Baas
#9 - 2015-01-01 03:59:10 UTC
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Why does this "code" do what they do? they are alienating an entire solo profession because why?


It's a PVP game, people will PVP. It's also an MMO, meaning that other players will affect your attempts at solo play. Finally, the game has been out for 10 years, and it's been like this for 10 years, so that gives you an idea of the chances you may have to change the game towards more protection for mining, if that's what you're looking for.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-01-01 04:01:47 UTC
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Thats the thing. I understand ganking experienced players who know better and know alot about this game but im pretty new. I mean, ive had this account for a few years, but ive only ever played for like 3 months. After they killed my ship, I have nothing.... I have like an ibis 10 jumps away but thats it... I had a mackinaw....

OK, well, that's probably a bit expensive for me to replace for you. I can't say that I don't feel sorry for you, but EVE provides the tools to PVP anywhere, with whoever, whether they like it or not.

Treat it as a learning experience, because you can't not make mistakes.
Move onwards, I guess.

Tech I Mining Barge is fine, right? Big smile I don't... Really... Want to replace a Mackinaw.
Memphis Baas
#11 - 2015-01-01 04:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Thats the thing. I understand ganking experienced players who know better and know alot about this game but im pretty new.


Because they attack players in high security, their own security ratings get shot to -10, and as such the NPC Navies do hunt them when they enter the space where you are. So they don't have much time to check your age, check your history, check wtf you're doing, and so on. They just see a juicy target (mining ship) and they take it out.

Sorry but you don't get special status. Nobody does. I'm an alt, flying an empty shuttle worth only 10k credits, nothing in the cargo, I got killed. What was the point? Certainly nothing to do with me or my ship, they were just looking for kills and fun.

This is the game.
Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#12 - 2015-01-01 04:10:41 UTC
Ive learned so much from you guys especially Memphis. lol Im going to be super cautious and do the steps you provided to ensure better safety. A retriever is fine Memphis. It would be greatly appreciated. I just wanna get back on my feetLol
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-01-01 04:12:41 UTC
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Ive learned so much from you guys especially Memphis. lol Im going to be super cautious and do the steps you provided to ensure better safety. A retriever is fine Memphis. It would be greatly appreciated. I just wanna get back on my feetLol

My name's Ferni, but anyway, you're in Citadel, right?
I'll be over that way soon.
Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#14 - 2015-01-01 04:17:09 UTC
Is there anyway u could send me just enough money to cover a jita priced retriever? Im on the forums on my ipod currently. lol
Memphis Baas
#15 - 2015-01-01 04:18:46 UTC
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:

My name's Ferni


Maybe I can change my hair color to blue or something.
Naturalcause Lemon
Immersion
#16 - 2015-01-01 04:22:45 UTC
Lol i meant everyone really helped me, Memphis and Ferni you were both very helpful. :) this community needs more people like u
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2015-01-01 04:31:21 UTC
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html?view=sidebar
Taking things at face value here, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you could probably benefit from this.
Fly safe.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-01-01 05:45:42 UTC
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Is there anyway u could send me just enough money to cover a jita priced retriever? Im on the forums on my ipod currently. lol

Retriever + Fit and Drones + Salvaging Skills are all waiting in game for you.
I also have an EVEmail there for you with additional information on the fit, and where better places to Mine may be.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-01-01 05:49:04 UTC
Joking a corp safety in numbers look at the recruiting forum

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-01-01 05:52:58 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
Joking a corp safety in numbers look at the recruiting forum

'Safety in numbers' >>> More targets.

Just sayin'
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