Missions & Complexes

Post-Trinity but pre-Apocrypha many years back, I have great memories of enjoying DED 9's and 10's either solo with a high EHP ship such as a Broadsword HIC or carrier, or with a group of friends using passive battleships, and enjoying even late-night to be able to warp in a carrier or super carrier to complete that DED...

Just like that.

BUT not anymore! No no no, nope, sorry CCP says to us players, we have changed our methods of how to begin these DEDs. This was their way of balancing the difficulty of these PVE sites.

I respect the game balancing, but tonight I'm sitting here online with one other corp mate nearby who wants to run a site with me, and we have 1 carrier online and a battleship. Had this been an earlier version of EVE, we would be looking at gateless combat in DED 9/10s.



CCP will you consider changing this so that even in small gangs, we may have some of the most fun PVE experience of our time online? Without needing 5 guardian pilots to fly with us through the gate...




A disgruntled veteran who remembers the good old days when it was enough to win with 1-2 pilots with one of being a capital pilot.

Which ship do you like doing them in?

Nice, they've really changed the environment since i was gone. Before, 9 and 10's had to be run in passive tanked ships with heavy EHP.

if Ishtar can do this solo, then CCP has done a great job on balancing.

This post doesn't make any sense at all. CCP didn't change DEDs at all (except for minor things like revamping Fleet staging point from an unrated plex to a DED 9/10). The last time CCP did anything to DED plexes other than minor tweaks was 2008 when they nerfed the overseer loot drops in 10/10s and 8/10s.

What has changed is that CCP changed the way ALL non-incursion/wormhole NPCs (except DED overseers and active structures like web towers and sentry towers) act. Now they switch targets, meaning that, no, you can't just shove a passive tanked BS into a Blood Raider Naval Shipyard, get agro and bring in a logi ship to rep the tank. You actually have to think now.

There is no DED plex that requires "5 guardians". ALL DEd 10/10s except the Blood Raider one is doable with a single subcapital ship. The Blood 10/10 can be solo'd with a Dual ASB cargo expanded Vargur (or other Marauder) dropping a mobile depot (for the storage space, place the cap booster charges in the mobile depot and you can refit the Varg for DPs and tracking)

And if you can't do a 9/10 with a carrier and a BS when the last stage of the 9/10 (Fleet Staging point 3) is doable with a single sub capital ship (I use a Shield Tanked Machariel orbiting the warp in beacon, the only threat is the neut batteries that spawn I the 2nd triggered wave) then you are doing something drastically wrong.

instead of being a "Disgruntled Veteran" making nonsense posts, you should understand that while the game has changed a bit, it's not nearly as bad as you mistakenly believe it is. In fact, it's in many ways easier, but you have to actually take the time to know what you are doing.

is there any chance you can post an Ishatar fit, which can solo 9/10