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Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#41 - 2011-12-18 09:24:06 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?

What you do is immoral and low.

You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.
Well see, there's your problem.

Wrecks aren't owned by anyone and are considered free-for-all and first come first serve. Concord places no value in floating debris and thus does not deem it theft. Those game mechanics are intended to be the way they are by the devs as they've personally stated numerous times on the forums.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2011-12-18 09:54:06 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?

What you do is immoral and low.

You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.
Well see, there's your problem.

Wrecks aren't owned by anyone and are considered free-for-all and first come first serve. Concord places no value in floating debris and thus does not deem it theft. Those game mechanics are intended to be the way they are by the devs as they've personally stated numerous times on the forums.

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Fact.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#43 - 2011-12-18 10:06:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
OP, if you don't like it, bring a friend to salvage for you and work out how much "income" you are willing to share, or do it yourself.

When I mission I bring my Noctis alt and park it at/near the mission. Ninja salvagers show up and leave very quickly when they realize they can't compete. In fact the only ones who bother are the ones who are not after salvage but rather trying to get me to attack them so the rest of their corp can gank me.

TL;DR: shut up and play EVE properly.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2011-12-18 10:37:56 UTC
Oh Jesus Fing Christ! Look, ninjaing has been nerfed to hell with the noctis and it's what....60km tractors now? If you're losing your loot to ninjas I'd say you're doing it wrong. HTFU and grow a pair.

Don't ban me, bro!
Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2011-12-18 11:16:50 UTC
So I come back to eve, to find, still, people moaning and crying over this? Seriously?

omg.
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#46 - 2011-12-18 11:41:03 UTC
Shoot the wrecks when they approach, they will leave you sooner or later. I've experienced this both ways. And don't run missions in Motsu or other major mission hubs.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#47 - 2011-12-18 11:44:17 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?

What you do is immoral and low.

You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.



This would improve the lives of 90% of Ninja salvagers.

More time spent flashy red to people means more people will take the bait and means more Marauders to ransom.

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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#48 - 2011-12-18 12:07:35 UTC
Now c'mon... Really?

Now that there quality of agents is removed and you can use ANY l4 agents for the same effect, this problem should really be practically non-existant. Just salvage as you go or if you can't do that - just warp out when a salvager comes in - ther's a good chance the rats in a l4 will aplha him.

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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#49 - 2011-12-18 12:08:42 UTC

Immoral, in EVE. Roll

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2011-12-18 12:23:23 UTC
Kha'Vorn wrote:
So I come back to eve, to find, still, people moaning and crying over this? Seriously?

omg.


The same old whine is still old, but new subscribers full of butt-hurt log on everyday.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#51 - 2011-12-18 12:37:13 UTC
I just wish my "visitors" would actually salvage.
Usually they only go flashy and soon leave once I blue the wrecks.....

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reaver2145
Satanic Lobster Buttplug With Hidden Unicorn.
#52 - 2011-12-18 13:15:49 UTC
Thank you for posting this

A representative of ours will be joining your missions soon to help collect your salvage for you

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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2011-12-18 13:37:51 UTC
Quote:
Or they use an alt and screw over people who work for their money


welcome to EVE

HTFU
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2011-12-18 13:44:04 UTC
Quote:
ununderstandable nonsence


lol
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#55 - 2011-12-18 13:47:02 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
60km tractors now?


No, 80km :)
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#56 - 2011-12-18 14:27:31 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Selinate wrote:
The ones that say that typically say it until they get scammed themselves out of all their isk and start bitching like a small dog that just got kicked....
And the examples you are going to cite to back up this assertion are.....


Go ahead and try and back your assertions up with proof also.

No? Yeah, that's what I thought...
Just read the forum. You'll come across plenty of "stop crying over internet pixels posts".

I've never seen a "I used to to love risk but now I want it removed from the game" post.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2011-12-18 15:11:23 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
60km tractors now?


No, 80km :)




It's just pathetically sad that people are still complaining about ninjas when the noctis can reach the entire breathe of the field without moving.

Don't ban me, bro!
Orlacc
#58 - 2011-12-18 15:55:09 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?

What you do is immoral and low.

You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.



Wow! I never heard this before!

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Qarth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2011-12-18 15:57:29 UTC
Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?

What you do is immoral and low.

You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.



Not this topic again. Dear God stop beating the horse already.
Blnukem 192
Death By Design
#60 - 2011-12-18 17:45:35 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
60km tractors now?


No, 80km :)


Actually it can go up to 90km+ with the new T2 tractor beams. Roll