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Most fun level 4 ship?
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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-12-25 10:21:04 UTC
Only problem i have with marauders is bastion can leave u sitting there for a while without being able to do anything.

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Shivanthar
#42 - 2014-12-25 13:53:55 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Only problem i have with marauders is bastion can leave u sitting there for a while without being able to do anything.


And their speed nerf... made me feel like I'm always in the bastion. I hated bastion, I died because of bastion, mourn mourn mourn.... At the end, I didn't like the idea neither. But since it is an implemented mechanic, the only theme for me to train for gallente bc V, thanks for the medium mjd I can now do lvl4 missions with 4 sentries like any other bs hull with much lower signature. The only exception might be dominix or any other drone boat yet to be implemented. Drones... No firing cost, no cargo space, good range, good tracking. Price efficiency 10/10. Time efficiency 8/10. What else could I want? ^.^

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Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#43 - 2014-12-25 17:18:49 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Utari Onzo wrote:
Shield paladin, and I'm not even trolling. Doesnt need a huge tank for lvl 4s and its damage application at range is scary. Its a real out the box ship and people will hate it but i love it



if the TE nerf didn't happen I'd be all over that... heck it still is probably a decent idea, I just find it works so well with armor I haven't been all that tempted to try the shield version yet.


You're right about the Te nerf hurting it but when you can fit three of them in the lpws and apply just over 800dps at 91km optimal with scortch it's a beast

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2014-12-26 03:28:36 UTC
Most fun? The hardest to survive in.
I liked using a faction cruiser for L4's. One had to actually play Eve to complete an L4 in one. There is nothing fun about uber-tanking a billion isk ship to AFK content- all for a few million in payout.

Even more fun- a few small ships with friends where you can practice building a fleet around specific fleet roles and take turns being an FC.

Nowhere would I define making content trivially easy as 'fun'. Uber tanking and watching TV while rats barely scratch you is hardly gripping entertainment. Grab some friends, work out some fleet doctrine and tactics....see if it works. Spamming F1 for the umpteenth time in a ship costing 1000x the actual payout of a given mission is dull and unoriginal.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#45 - 2014-12-26 06:19:22 UTC
Shivanthar wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Only problem i have with marauders is bastion can leave u sitting there for a while without being able to do anything.


And their speed nerf... made me feel like I'm always in the bastion. I hated bastion, I died because of bastion, mourn mourn mourn.... At the end, I didn't like the idea neither. But since it is an implemented mechanic, the only theme for me to train for gallente bc V, thanks for the medium mjd I can now do lvl4 missions with 4 sentries like any other bs hull with much lower signature. The only exception might be dominix or any other drone boat yet to be implemented. Drones... No firing cost, no cargo space, good range, good tracking. Price efficiency 10/10. Time efficiency 8/10. What else could I want? ^.^

I mess up my bastion timing sometimes when I'm hammered, rest of the time I usually do fine. plus you are only stuck for a min at most, good excuse for another drink or a ****.

when you hit 1100+ dps at 72km speed isn't really a priority. plus 900 something m/s is fine for lv4s. and I'd probably just stick with the ishtar and skip the eos, but hey, using sentry drones makes me want to take a nap, they can do their own thing and you don't really have to worry about them much. Also I have no clue why anyone would want drones for a weapon platform in lv4s other than to go afk. they are less entertaining than mining. and also the income is awful using sentries as a main weapon.

Utari Onzo wrote:
You're right about the Te nerf hurting it but when you can fit three of them in the lpws and apply just over 800dps at 91km optimal with scortch it's a beast


I can do that with tracking comps no problem and fit a sensor booster, although I tend to drop one for a prop mod. having the tracking bonus all the time sounds nice though, and honestly the optimal range is probably enough anyways. and when I plant to shoot at 90km I bring the tachyons.

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Shivanthar
#46 - 2014-12-26 10:48:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Shivanthar
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

I mess up my bastion timing sometimes when I'm hammered, rest of the time I usually do fine. plus you are only stuck for a min at most, good excuse for another drink or a ****.


I did that "missing cycle" while playing like maniac under neut pressure between tons of npcs, I know I called it myself but lost the ship anyways :D

Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

when you hit 1100+ dps at 72km speed isn't really a priority. plus 900 something m/s is fine for lv4s. and I'd probably just stick with the ishtar and skip the eos, but hey, using sentry drones makes me want to take a nap, they can do their own thing and you don't really have to worry about them much. Also I have no clue why anyone would want drones for a weapon platform in lv4s other than to go afk. they are less entertaining than mining. and also the income is awful using sentries as a main weapon.


You're right about projection, hence my gameplay is rather like shooting while moving. I liked to watch that manuavering between NPCs, bastion hammered that abit, and while trying to get use to it, I lost the ship.

For the drone part, you're correct to the bits, however I can tell that it hurts income a little bit but not that much. Bastion gameplay is not much different than drone gameplay, except ship can take more dps pressure and more looting speed/capacity, which sometimes exceeds in normal hulls.

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#47 - 2014-12-26 11:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
Fun, I play with those fittings. Shield tank almost not needed. This thing goes around 700 m/s and speed tanks.

[Gila]

4-x Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Gistum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner

4-xPrototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Guristas Scourge Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
2-x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


'Augmented' Hammerhead x2


Mid-grade Crystal set
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Navigation NN-603
Zor's Custom Navigation Link
Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Fuel Conservation FC-803
Zainou 'Snapshot' Light Missiles LM-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003

Aslo thinking to try this fit

[Gila, snake]

4-x Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Gistum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Gist A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pith X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Corelum B-Type 10MN Afterburner

4-x Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Guristas Scourge Light Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters II


'Augmented' Hammerhead x2


Mid-grade Snake set
Mid-grade Snake Omega
Zor's Custom Navigation Link
Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link
Zainou 'Snapshot' Light Missiles LM-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003
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