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[Suggestion] Active Directional Scanner (DSCAN)
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Temijin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-12-24 09:00:59 UTC
I think this is a great idea. Sets the stage to get rid of free Intel in local chat for nul sec just like in worm holes. Never made sense to me for nul sec. Fits lore. Solves several problems. Let's do it!
159Pinky
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-12-24 11:19:17 UTC  |  Edited by: 159Pinky
Jack Oam wrote:
159Pinky wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
159Pinky wrote:
No auto dscan is needed. If you forget it: your mistake. As you mentioned, clicking dscan is easy, so I don't see the problem?
Mining is easy + dscan is easy = mining + dscan somewhat easy !
Shooting us easy + dscan is easy = nullsec plexs is somewhat easy !

Short: -1

Have you ever been to WH space?


Relevance to what I posted?


It is very relevant, whatever you do you need to use dscan constantly in w-space.
No one says that clicking a button every few second is not easy,
but we are paying money to do it.

Why it should be tedious when it can be easy?
Eve's gameplay can be challenging enough without need to click on a button every 2 second like some kind of a lab rat.






Yes, WH are difficult, they are not lik 0.0. But hey, you knew that before you entered WH. And I also pay money to CCP to be able to catch ratters. If all they need to do is run a module that does this for them, then I want scan probes to will auto pin point ratters, because moving probes is tedious in my opninion. And a waste of my time.

Why should it be tedious when it can be easy?
Shivanthar
#43 - 2014-12-24 11:52:47 UTC
159Pinky wrote:


... then I want scan probes to will auto pin point ratters, because moving probes is tedious in my opninion. And a waste of my time.

Why should it be tedious when it can be easy?


Why are you comparing a needless push action with a mini-game and then call it a "waste of time"?
One of the proposals destroys an annoyance while your proposal destroys a mini-game that requires game skills/player skills and is fun to do?

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-12-24 20:47:31 UTC
It's like those quick time events in games these days where you mash the X button as fast as you can to make the character perform a complex action they already know how to do. No gameplay in that. Probes are gameplay, and surprisingly anti-bot as well.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
159Pinky
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-12-25 23:08:57 UTC
Shivanthar wrote:
159Pinky wrote:


... then I want scan probes to will auto pin point ratters, because moving probes is tedious in my opninion. And a waste of my time.

Why should it be tedious when it can be easy?


Why are you comparing a needless push action with a mini-game and then call it a "waste of time"?
One of the proposals destroys an annoyance while your proposal destroys a mini-game that requires game skills/player skills and is fun to do?



And with auto dscan you ruin my gameplay...
Shivanthar
#46 - 2014-12-25 23:14:35 UTC
159Pinky wrote:

And with auto dscan you ruin my gameplay...


Good try.

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-12-26 16:29:13 UTC
I posit that the real reason people are opposed to the change is because they are good at mindless button-mashing and are afraid that actual skill will begin to govern the scanning meta if this change happens.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Dantes Wolf
Interstellar Corporation of Universal Management
#48 - 2014-12-27 00:41:19 UTC
Lienzo wrote:
I'd govern the update rate based on the set range and scope of the scan. The more data you want, the longer you have to wait.

Secondly, dscan gives fleet comps a little too inexpensively. Reduce the information presented to categorical data: ie 1mn magnetometric signal.

Thirdly, give different kinds of ships different native scanning attributes, particularly for maximum range. Pods, start ships and shuttles should be virtually worthless for scanning.


This.

+1 one for that Idea, Lienzo.

"Before you diagnose yourself with low selfesteem and depression, you should first make sure, that you are not just, in fact, surrounded by assholes".
159Pinky
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-12-27 11:08:46 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I posit that the real reason people are opposed to the change is because they are good at mindless button-mashing and are afraid that actual skill will begin to govern the scanning meta if this change happens.


Where is the skill in an auto updating dscan tool?
Ratchet Conway
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-12-27 11:16:54 UTC
159Pinky wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I posit that the real reason people are opposed to the change is because they are good at mindless button-mashing and are afraid that actual skill will begin to govern the scanning meta if this change happens.


Where is the skill in an auto updating dscan tool?



This feat can be achieved by making a hotkey in the keybindings tab. There is no skill in that.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-12-27 19:17:00 UTC
159Pinky wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I posit that the real reason people are opposed to the change is because they are good at mindless button-mashing and are afraid that actual skill will begin to govern the scanning meta if this change happens.


Where is the skill in an auto updating dscan tool?

In focusing mental energy on something that actually uses brain power.

Where is the skill in button-mashing for intel?

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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