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I kill a rat and before I can loot/salvage somebody poaches my kill.

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TangleTop Lennelluc
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-12-25 03:55:22 UTC
Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.
Qapla Orion
Biohazard Systems Tracking and Recon Division
#2 - 2014-12-25 04:00:43 UTC
Too easy... Must resist....
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2014-12-25 04:01:18 UTC
Welcome to EVE

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2014-12-25 04:24:51 UTC
Yes, it was rude, but legal, and your attack is illegal.

The Drake is a Lie

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#5 - 2014-12-25 04:29:54 UTC
Sick some Hammerheads on 'em and see what happens.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#6 - 2014-12-25 04:37:36 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.


He can steal from your wrecks. Doing so makes him suspect and allows you to attack him without Concord getting involved.

However if you attack him he can attack you back.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-12-25 04:42:20 UTC
TangleTop Lennelluc wrote:
Happened a couple times, whilst mining, beat off a rat attack and the plan is to return after mining with something to do the loot salvage thing. Before that happens some rude person salvages my rat kills. He can't loot it, as the loot goes into a can, and quite frankly hi-sec rats don't drop that good a stuff. I just want to know: Will Concord get all bent out of shape if I sic a few Hammerheads on him? I targeted one and he turned blue in the Overview, but I didn't go any further as I really like my big old barge and would hate to lose it.


called baiting i believe.

he steals from you on purpose, you attack him, he attacks you back and his friends join in and repair him - repairing is legal.
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#8 - 2014-12-25 04:49:43 UTC
Seriously? You're going to get bent over a couple hundred thousand isk worth of salvage? If they aren't touching the cans, then don't worry about it. You're losing more isk just fretting over it.

And high-sec rats *can* drop nice stuff, it's just incredibly rare (because grr goons, etc.)

Profit favors the prepared

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#9 - 2014-12-25 04:51:38 UTC
You're upset over someone salvaging some crappy belt rats with crappy salvage?

Lol
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#10 - 2014-12-25 05:02:26 UTC
You can shoot anyone flasshy yellow (they can shoot back though)
Serene Repose
#11 - 2014-12-25 05:08:51 UTC
Yah, sure. Any time. Day or night. No cover charge.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Omar Alharazaad
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-12-25 05:20:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Ultimately it's not your stuff til you dock and unload it into your hangar.
Up until that moment ownership of an item lies in a certain gray area. Someone can steal it from the wreck, which will cause them to go suspect. Someone can shoot you and take it from your wreck also, which will usually evoke a CONCORD response unless either you are suspect yourself or they have an active killright on you.
As far as salvaging goes, there's nothing to stop another player from salvaging wrecks in space regardless of who shot the ship involved. This does not cause suspect or criminal flagging because they're basically cleaning up spacejunk.

Edit: And he can loot it out of a can, it just makes him go suspect. The more you know...

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services
CAStabouts
#13 - 2014-12-25 05:48:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Snagletooth Johnson
Next time OP cary an MTU and a salvage drone...or blue it up so I can get the loot, too.

Seriously, if you can't be bothered with an MTU/Salvage drone, then you really didn't want it anyway, so why cry?
Omar Alharazaad
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-12-25 06:21:33 UTC
MTU's are not a sure thing either. They can be nommed on with impunity by anyone who's willing to go suspect. If you do the AFK mining thing (which I strongly discourage) the odds are pretty good that the MTU will be a wreck by the time you return to keys.
Bottom line is that if you truly want something you need to be johnny on the spot about making sure it becomes yours before someone else snags it for themselves.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Siegfried Tahl
STCorp
#15 - 2014-12-25 08:44:11 UTC
Wouldnt be hooked on the game just as much if at some point ninja salvaging wasnt a profession.
Eugene Kerner
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-12-25 08:57:36 UTC
it is not yours unless you take it.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Priest
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-12-25 09:03:28 UTC
I have been seeking faction commander rat wrecks that miners leave on highsec belt while killing some on my own. It's decent isk for a newbie actually.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#18 - 2014-12-25 09:27:48 UTC
Just because i mentioned them doesnt mean we need trolls doing retro threads.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#19 - 2014-12-25 09:28:36 UTC
I'll bite. I shouldn't, but:

Salvaging does not warrant a suspect-status. Looting does.

If you're not willing to fight, putting drones on him is a bad idea anyway.

Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#20 - 2014-12-25 09:31:16 UTC
You people are a shame.

You fall for everything.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

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