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Big Useless Ship : Titan

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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2014-12-23 17:33:28 UTC
Id Tamta wrote:
Even titans should be this useless or game breaking why not remove them ?

This is your first good idea. Delete the ships, refund the SP, and move on.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#82 - 2014-12-23 23:15:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Id Tamta wrote:
Well than i should bump this topic even more because i like this game much more than CCP Oveur and think it should be more fun for both old and new players.

This is not a "I have a titan buff it please" topic, even it seems like it, i dont feel that way, if you think i do so thats your problem sooo as you say it "Suck it up"


You are failing to grasp something. You care about the fun you are missing the way you want it.

Most players are happier now and will be the more so as time goes on and things settle down.
Even if every Titan pilot quit tomorrow that would still be better for EVE. They are only a few in number and EVE would only become a better game.

These changes are great for EVE. They just suck for you

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#83 - 2014-12-23 23:44:07 UTC
Phoebe was great for Titans. It limits how quickly everyone can pig pile on you when you use it. I saw one use its DD on a Triage Archon yesterday. The pilot didn't sound unhappy with his ship. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm sure our opponents were happy too. It's not everyday that you hot drop with a much larger force and get DDed. If you hate your Titan, just start using it. You will probably find you like it much better. Or, you won't have to worry about it anymore. It's a win-win.

As they said, it's a giant space ****. I have learned over the years that it is fun to use my ****. Get out there and use yours and I am sure you will agree.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Generaloberst Kluntz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2014-12-24 00:21:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Generaloberst Kluntz
Id Tamta wrote:
Now you say you think titans need some love and my arguments are not strong enough. So make my arguments stronger please, And moving a titan through a gate ? I dont think its a good idea :) I will never move my titan through the gates SOLO, with a single sabre can hunt me, move a titan to subcap fleet for boost ? I dont think so.

Btw i dont get why subcap fleets gets jump fatique from titan briges or jump bridges its was a comfort less jumping more fighting. Now its all jumping through gates go to target and come back without a fight. The result is :

%80 travel time
%20 fight time.

Why CCP why i have to jump with 200 ppl with the TİDİ through 20 jumps ? For a fight ? Titan and jumpbridges fatique needs to removed or retouched.

Because the 0,0 is getting more and more and more boring, more and more and more TİDİ.

I see your pain dude
and I like it.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#85 - 2014-12-24 02:11:59 UTC
Kesthely wrote:
Id Tamta wrote:
Now you say you think titans need some love and my arguments are not strong enough. So make my arguments stronger please, And moving a titan through a gate ? I dont think its a good idea :) I will never move my titan through the gates SOLO, with a single sabre can hunt me, move a titan to subcap fleet for boost ? I dont think so.

Btw i dont get why subcap fleets gets jump fatique from titan briges or jump bridges its was a comfort less jumping more fighting. Now its all jumping through gates go to target and come back without a fight. The result is :

%80 travel time
%20 fight time.

Why CCP why i have to jump with 200 ppl with the TİDİ through 20 jumps ? For a fight ? Titan and jumpbridges fatique needs to removed or retouched.

Because the 0,0 is getting more and more and more boring, more and more and more TİDİ.



The reason they implemented jump fatigue is to try to fracture the super alliances and promote smaller scaled fights. This has several benefits, serverload (most of ccp's money goes into updateing the servers to be able to support the increasing amount of big fights) and allowing smaller entities to actually make a difference.

A few years ago you had multiple alliances, and power blocks in war against eachother, nowadays it seems like theres only 2 blocks. Yes block compostition keeps shifting, but its 2 groups more groups is more diversity, more diversity is good.

In my opinion there should be even more restrictions to power projection, eg double fatigue timer if jumping into hostile space, or allowing only an x amount of (super)capitals to jump trough a gate per minute.


I would bet several of the recent super deaths were due to the changes. You can't just jabber ping your entire super force anymore to save some idiot who screwed up in his titan.
Jit4 S1ut
Doomheim
#86 - 2014-12-24 08:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jit4 S1ut
Tear Jar wrote:
Kesthely wrote:
Id Tamta wrote:
Now you say you think titans need some love and my arguments are not strong enough. So make my arguments stronger please, And moving a titan through a gate ? I dont think its a good idea :) I will never move my titan through the gates SOLO, with a single sabre can hunt me, move a titan to subcap fleet for boost ? I dont think so.

Btw i dont get why subcap fleets gets jump fatique from titan briges or jump bridges its was a comfort less jumping more fighting. Now its all jumping through gates go to target and come back without a fight. The result is :

%80 travel time
%20 fight time.

Why CCP why i have to jump with 200 ppl with the TİDİ through 20 jumps ? For a fight ? Titan and jumpbridges fatique needs to removed or retouched.

Because the 0,0 is getting more and more and more boring, more and more and more TİDİ.



The reason they implemented jump fatigue is to try to fracture the super alliances and promote smaller scaled fights. This has several benefits, serverload (most of ccp's money goes into updateing the servers to be able to support the increasing amount of big fights) and allowing smaller entities to actually make a difference.

A few years ago you had multiple alliances, and power blocks in war against eachother, nowadays it seems like theres only 2 blocks. Yes block compostition keeps shifting, but its 2 groups more groups is more diversity, more diversity is good.

In my opinion there should be even more restrictions to power projection, eg double fatigue timer if jumping into hostile space, or allowing only an x amount of (super)capitals to jump trough a gate per minute.


I would bet several of the recent super deaths were due to the changes. You can't just jabber ping your entire super force anymore to save some idiot who screwed up in his titan.


Like that idiot from NC. who got killed twice. Idiot. oh what there all idiots! :O
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#87 - 2014-12-24 09:07:45 UTC
Eve online is all about using your spaceships to compensate for other shortcomings. The isk on field, you see

That's why it is so painful to some people when these get nerfed. (But I'm still getting one because I have a lot to compensate for of course)

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#88 - 2014-12-24 09:31:59 UTC
Id Tamta wrote:
First of all you dont need a fleet of caps to kill a titan all you need is 20 talos some pilgrim. You can tackle a titan with a single HIC and titan could not fireback ? Is it really seem rational to you ?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24505843

Titans should be usefull because they are the biggest ships in eve online world, they need lots of work to hop in and i want to see more titans in action so we can kill more titans, have more fun.
I said "because they are big" and "because they take a long time to train for" are not valid responses to my question. Those two replies basically make up the entirety of your answer.

Quote:
All titans are just sitting in their safe poses and dont login even. Is that what u want for eve online? Old players not logging in new players cant enjoy the game?
Is a lack of titans logging in what I want for EVE? Yes it is. If a titan never logged on again, I would be delighted. Get rid of them. Death to all supers.

New players don't enjoy anything about the game that has to do with titans, by the way. They don't enjoy flying them, they don't enjoy using them and they don't enjoy killing them. New players either fill other roles on the field that titans tend to be immune to or they're not in null to begin with.

Quote:
Even titans should be this useless or game breaking why not remove them?
Exactly what I want, as well. Death to all supers.

Quote:
I watched the ultima online dying so i will talk for eve online
The two games bear only marginal similarity and Trammel is what killed UO. Show me Trammel in EVE.
Kendarr
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#89 - 2014-12-24 12:48:27 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Eve online is all about using your spaceships to compensate for other shortcomings. The isk on field, you see

That's why it is so painful to some people when these get nerfed. (But I'm still getting one because I have a lot to compensate for of course)

Thats also why i drive a BMW in real life.
Kendarr
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#90 - 2014-12-24 12:49:24 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Eve online is all about using your spaceships to compensate for other shortcomings.


Thats also why i drive a BMW in real life.
Shivanthar
#91 - 2014-12-24 13:09:31 UTC
Kendarr wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Eve online is all about using your spaceships to compensate for other shortcomings.


Thats also why i drive a BMW in real life.


(fun intended) And motorcycle for me, passing BMWs on a stuck traffic all the time (where I live ofc) Lol

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#92 - 2014-12-25 01:43:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Shivanthar wrote:
(fun intended) And motorcycle for me, passing BMWs on a stuck traffic all the time (where I live ofc) Lol

There are so many cycle tracks where I live that only 1/18th of my journey is on the roads when going to work. Crossing most of the city, I get there quicker than any other means of transport.

Well okay, a private vehicle at 03:00 in the morning would probably get there quicker. P

To bring this on topic;
This means sell your titan and get a nullified T3 to go places quickly in order to gank things.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Id Tamta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2014-12-25 14:06:37 UTC
I did not lose any titan or sc lately :).And i drive BMW and i think thats all
Generaloberst Kluntz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2014-12-25 20:06:32 UTC
I drive Bmw I just don't have one.
Can i has your stuffs
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#95 - 2014-12-25 23:03:47 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I said "because they are big" and "because they take a long time to train for" are not valid responses

Well if they were rare and an alliance at most had two or three, something something remote aoe doomsday

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Id Tamta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#96 - 2014-12-26 02:09:16 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I said "because they are big" and "because they take a long time to train for" are not valid responses

Well if they were rare and an alliance at most had two or three, something something remote aoe doomsday


Unfortunately you are not making the rules
Jenshae Chiroptera
#97 - 2014-12-26 05:42:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Id Tamta wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I said "because they are big" and "because they take a long time to train for" are not valid responses

Well if they were rare and an alliance at most had two or three, something something remote aoe doomsday


Unfortunately you are not making the rules


Nor are you but your thread does show something:

Each different person to post here:

25 - Phoebe is good / titans are still useful.
1 - Think titan changes are terrible. +1 (you)
3 - Playing both sides.
7 - (Role balance after some time / different direction for Titans)
2 - Incoherant.
1 - Solo titans are still possible
3 - Wants to see (solo) titans explode.

(This doesn't even count all the people that have "Like"d the posts supporting the Phoebe change)

Forget it. This change is fantastic and I do not think CCP will reverse it at all unless they doubled their dose because of the holidays. Cool

Go shout at a storm. You have more chance of changing where it goes.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
#98 - 2014-12-26 07:45:33 UTC
I agree.

The crippling of Cyno jumps really hurt the game. Those jumping options gave players additional seasoning to navigation. Ways to bypass the stupid boring gate camps. They can be cool, but let's face the facts. Do you really want to fight gate camp after gate camp with your fleet, just to get to one system, making damn sure I know you are comming?

It's nice to have the element of surprise, and Titans are so slow at alligning, it would be a major operation just to get your fleet... Well, it's such an obvious mistake that CCP made, that I am not going to bother typing it all out.
Id Tamta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#99 - 2014-12-26 13:10:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Id Tamta
I'm supporting the phoebe changes too. Oh god why you cant understand me ? I will try to make my self as simple as possible :).

Power projection is bad.
Titan jump fatique is good.

TITAN JUMP BRIDGES SHOULD CAUSE LESS FATIQUE so that ppl can go to PVP faster.

Titans must have a solo or/and subcap damage opinion so that they can defend themselfs. Dont you guys wanna see a titan at the gatecamp. It should be more harder to tackle. My suggestion is only HIC's could tackle them.

We have a km's long ship that doesnt have all kind of guns. I dont think soooo :)


So much hate for titans.
So many space poor people.
C'mon guys stop being poor :)
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#100 - 2014-12-26 14:33:06 UTC
Tech, dominion sov changes, the numerous superbuffs, all came forward from sacked goon minion greyscale and friends.

4Years of super superiority needs now 4 years of uselessness. Enjoy!

In Summer we dine in VFK! Pirate