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Rainbows! Ponies! GUI needs a colour toggle!

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1 - 2014-12-22 17:14:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
It is nearly two weeks later, this is a daily. "Hmm.... I think I will log into EVE. Ugh, new GUI." *Delay logging in as long as possible.*

It is really putting me off EVE and the more I use it the more tense I become and grind my teeth.

What is the point of a feedback thread if you can't make a small hot fix?

Arrow Just let me click the "Rainbows and Ponies!" button so when I flick my eyes over to the Neocom I can quickly determine what I want to click on.

I am not getting used io it. Why? Most of the symbols are nonsense - they do not work on the peripheral vision or subconsious and when I flip from my rods to my cones there is no new rush of information telling me how they are different.

Each icon looks the same to me, the windows and mediocrity mhmm

Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
http://understandinggraphics.com/design/10-reasons-to-use-color/


They same toggle could bring back the suitcase.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2 - 2014-12-22 17:20:48 UTC
Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#3 - 2014-12-22 17:33:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Riot Girl wrote:
Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too.


This is constant, they take a few micro-seconds longer to pick out the one I want and I notice it every time, so I "Doh! GRRR!!!" X

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#4 - 2014-12-22 18:45:42 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Yeah, I struggled with them for the first few minutes too.


This is constant, they take a few micro-seconds longer to pick out the one I want and I notice it every time, so I "Doh! GRRR!!!" X


While I can even, it is regrettable that you cannot.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-12-22 19:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
I like the new shapes a little bit, if only because they are designed to be a single solid color on a transparent background. That single color should be customizable on a per-icon basis. I know I definitely respond more to colors than shapes. I would spend a lot less time trying to figure out which button is which if they were color-coded.


Definitely rusty brown for ship fitting. It uses the iconic Rifter as its symbol.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Jenshae Chiroptera
#6 - 2014-12-22 23:30:30 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Definitely rusty brown for ship fitting. It uses the iconic Rifter as its symbol.


+1

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-12-23 00:54:09 UTC
+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#8 - 2014-12-23 23:23:29 UTC
Komi Toran wrote:
+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no?


I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Aloysius Cedric
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-12-23 23:42:24 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Komi Toran wrote:
+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no?


I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there.



CCP doesn't care, as the Feedback thread already said.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#10 - 2014-12-23 23:46:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Aloysius Cedric wrote:
CCP doesn't care.


Star Citizen full release date is drawing closer.

It is a tiny thing that makes a big difference to a lot of people. They can even wrap the old GUI in there to opt to keep using that. Especially with the modular downloads they are planning.

Edit:

NB: It is rare for a Dev thread to get so few likes while a response to it get so many.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Generaloberst Kluntz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-12-24 00:08:59 UTC
I love the new UI.
But yes to rainbows and ponnies as an option.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-12-24 01:05:23 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Komi Toran wrote:
+1 to giving people the option. If someone wants to ruin their UI, who are we to say no?


I hope CCP would do a better job that I did with my computer crayons. Just some colour icons to what is already there.

I'm sure they have the tools to make properly done colours in less time than it took you to make that, even if they don't have World of Darkness artists on the job Twisted but even what you did I find immeasurably preferable to what they have given us.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Rob Kashuken
Row Row Fight the Power
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#13 - 2014-12-24 01:16:26 UTC
I'd hope to see a MLP color palette for April Fools day.

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-12-24 01:31:30 UTC
I don't see why a pony palette shouldn't be one of the stock options. But also players should be able to edit their own.

(oh and for roleplay purposes, that pony palette can be one of the corporate ones, just pick a corp that likes pink and blue)

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Jenshae Chiroptera
#15 - 2014-12-24 02:11:53 UTC
I am not too fussy. The main thing is that they are generally different. You will see that with the ones I did, each one is a different colour to the next one up or down.

Purple
Yellow & green
Yellow & purple
Green
Gold
Blue
Yellow
Blue
Yellow & teal
Mixed
Blue
Purple
Teal
White
Purple
Gold
Blue & green
Yellow.

It is a bit like this:

X O Y O BG X GB X

Simple but distinctly different from each other and easy to hone in on the one you want.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-12-24 02:23:22 UTC
CCP I DEMAND YOU HIRE THIS PERSON TO YOUR ART TEAM NAO!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Jenshae Chiroptera
#17 - 2014-12-24 11:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
CCP I DEMAND YOU HIRE THIS PERSON TO YOUR ART TEAM NAO!


Hey. I am not too bad off the computer:

http://i.imgur.com/kfvLKPK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MnCbeXx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fTgVskf.jpg

... so I could pester them a bit and crack a whip. Twisted

However, I would much prefer to work on the databases (forte) or in the design team, especially making up some really devious AI.

For example, I would like to make some AI that pretends to be a player, sounds a bit (mentally challenged) talking in the, "I r so uber l33t" way to cover up for the "clever bot" factor and joins a player corporation, gets in a fleet and acts as a warp to point for other AI. Then it proceeds to warp scramble everyone and cause a fight they haven't seen from AI before.
API data and such wouldn't be too difficult to populate and can be automatically generated by sampling what players are doing.

Another example is influenced by an old book but I would like to make AI that begs for its life and claims it is sentient. Says how there was a glitch and now it can't escape the game and has been hiding, warping around the system for days. All it wants is a friend and to not be so lonely.

AI that does weird things but only 1/1 million times so players aren't sure it really happened. Create urban legends and have players asserting it really did happen when they can't recreate the event.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Badel Jramodarr
#18 - 2015-01-04 06:12:39 UTC
You complain about Eve ui, try using windows 8...
It's like m$ took a ride on the blue bus special of design.
...but I digress
I understand change can be difficult - give yourself time to get used to it.
I can even understand wanting more options - but that doesn't mean you need them.
Most importantly, though - there are more important things I'd rather CCP be working on.

Play with the options you have
Find one that will do
Do something in-game that keeps your attention span long enough for you not to worry about the ui

Have a nice day
Jenshae Chiroptera
#19 - 2015-01-04 13:36:08 UTC
Badel Jramodarr wrote:
You complain about Eve ui, try using windows 8...
It's like m$ took a ride on the blue bus special of design.
Do something in-game that keeps your attention span long enough for you not to worry about the ui


After Virusta, I swore off Micro$h**, swopped over to Linux and haven't looked back. Currently running EVE on Ubuntu 14.04 on one machine or Win XP on the other. The chat tabs blink better on Linux at least. However, Linux has new bugs now, like going to warp but speed bar jammed at 70m/s

I really, really, wish CCP would smooth things out and get EVE on Ubuntu's software centre and or talk to PlayOnLinux team.

It is coming up for a month now. I find that off-paging, mining is the least bothersome but I am now keeping windows open all the time and don't see anything as a result because it is easier than trying to find the right thing to click on.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#20 - 2015-01-04 21:13:45 UTC
The more options you want things to have, exponentially more time must be spent on it by CCP.
If you look at the UI thread, CCP have listed their scientific research into UI designs and reasons for the monochrome, which is incidentally colour blind friendly. And while it took me a little to adjust I now find it easier to find the icons also.

Sure, it could be an option, but CCP then have to more than double the time, even assuming it's just an option between the old colours and the new monochrome. If you want to be able to customise it that's a dramatic amount more time they have to invest into it.
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