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EVE Online: Incarna 1.1.1 Feedback

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-09-13 12:37:12 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
EVE Online: Incarna 1.1.1 has been deployed. This patch focuses on fixing issues introduced with Incarna 1.1. Patch notes can be found here.

This thread is for general feedback. If you encounter any issues please use the Incarna 1.1 issues thread which can be found here.

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
Scitor Nantom
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-13 12:57:31 UTC
OOC:

I'm wondering if you can help me figure this out. By now, I thought the rest of Incarna would be out... you know, the stations, bars, strategy game, etc. I have even heard people say that they saw it was due out in October... but for the life of me I can't find where this is stated.

What are the plans for the other CQ styles and the stations, where we can see other pod pilots? When will this be released?
Martin Lloydd
Wormhole X-treme
#3 - 2011-09-13 13:36:53 UTC
Huh... I could have sworn other things were promised by "the end of the summer."

Weird... must have misread that because I can't seem to find it anywhere now.

But uh... seems like there's been a lot of interest in CCP's latest belly flop!! :D
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-09-13 13:37:36 UTC
Hmm well for a start everything is working fine! i mean whats up with that??

I shall now do my best to find a problem so i can blame it on the patch

Nice one

No Worries
Conrad Lionhart
#5 - 2011-09-13 13:59:05 UTC
This could be my ISP, but the game feels slow for me.
UniqueToo
Resistance Is Phutile
#6 - 2011-09-13 14:28:59 UTC
Still multiple popup windows every time I put ammo in my ship. Very annoying.
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#7 - 2011-09-13 14:44:26 UTC
And once again, all my station containers are locking contents placed in them while I had them all on the unlocked setting before the patch ...
Kyjaro
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-09-13 22:42:36 UTC
What worries me the most is that expansion after expansion, patch after patch you continue to ignore the little things that have been bugged for so long.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#9 - 2011-09-13 23:50:08 UTC
Why is there no shortcut...not even the ability to make a shortcut to close specific windows.

The closest I can find is ctl-w to close the active window, but why isn't alt-c a toggle open/close cargohold? or any of the myriad open window - X shortcuts? Why are they all one-way operations? Alt-C doesn't have another function bound to it if the cargo is open.

There are 45+ "open window - X" shortcuts assignable. Only one "close active window" shortcut.

Just friggin' annoying, considering they spent 3+ weeks and 3 patches working on the cargohold.

KB

Dum Spiro Spero
Meijhin Sah
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-09-14 00:11:24 UTC
There's no mention of a mail fix in the patch notes, however the mail icon doesn't flash anymore. That just confims that patch notes are always incomplete. How are we supposed to give you complete feedback on all the fixes when only a few of them are mentioned in the patch notes ?
Vjorn Angannon
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#11 - 2011-09-14 02:16:17 UTC
Thank you very, very much for (finally!) fixing the repair tool.
bongpacks
Rules of Acquisition
#12 - 2011-09-14 08:33:09 UTC
Quote:
The apparent lack of replies to this thread only means that the players know they aren't being listened to. Why give feedback when you will only be ignored. The lack of posts in the current issues thread is simply because we're tired of typing the same things month after month, patch after patch. I'm glad the company has decided they want more new players, god knows I love killing them all but how can a game that's aim is immersion really immerse anything when you have so many bugs smacking the windscreen in every facet of the game? I spend more time working around the heaps of fail that get released without any form of testing whatsoever than I do actually enjoying this game. So many bugs are let slip under the radar for the most part because not many people actually notice the subtle differences and changes that happen after every major expansion, but just because no one notices doesn't mean it's not a bug or that it shouldn't be fixed. I'm sure the developer that made sure that bookmarks in the solar system map were never obscured by beacons and other things and that the bookmarks displayed their distance in AU from your ship was proud of his/her work. I'm also sure it must displease this developer that these things are now broken, his/her hard work wasted to a non-existent quality assurance department. I don't know if the developers are forced by upper management to roll out expansions and patches before they are fully functional and properly tested or if they're just that incompetent at what they do, I hope it's the former. In the past three or more issues threads I have diligently posted all the subtle changes and HUGE IN YOUR FACE BUGS that I can actually remember, the list is so large in fact that my memory actually fails me a times as I need that space to remember things like math. However I have never once received a reply from any member of CCP to assure me that I am not crazy or simply misinformed on how something should be working even though you're apparently committed to better communication with your customers. The trend is that any bugs that don't make the game impossible to play without GREAT annoyance are simply ignored. Any bug having anything to do with CQ is instantly replied to, the customer coddled by a CCP employee and assured that it's a known issue. Big issues that however effect the game play greatly such as drone AI being completely bugged is ignored, never once has a CCP employee commented on the affair of drones and it's quite infuriating. If the wrinkles don't get ironed out of this game before you keep heaping on more and more worthless "improvements" then I'm afraid it will implode and the eve universe will be a thing you will only be able to read about on forgotten blogs and watch on ancient youtube videos. I consider the lack of a response to not a single one of my posts on this forum an insult, a complete lack of care. The players of eve are what makes the company that is CCP possible in this downward spiraling economy, perhaps you would do well to make a concerted effort to reply to each and every post in your issues threads, of course not the ones where people are simply venting their understandable frustrations upon you but the ones who are trying to communicate their issues and concerns.
I felt no need to revise this from the last feedback thread. Straight
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-09-14 12:53:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara
bongpacks wrote:
Quote:
well-stated wall-o-text
I felt no need to revise this from the last feedback thread. Straight
I feel your pain and I also observe and experience these changes. I also wonder if CCP has a seriously poor code version control management problem as each patch has a good chance of re-introducing bugs once-thought squashed. CCP loves to play these bugs off with cute phrases in their patch notes, but that has to be ******* frustrating from both a producer and developer standpoint to see old work go down the shitter with shiny new patches.

An example of a subtle, yet meaningful, change to game play that took place a few years back:

The removal of being able to right click "in-space" and access the navigation menu (including bookmarks and celestials) while using the solar system map. And while we can still attempt to put the mouse over a bookmark while in the solar system map, there is no guarantee that the stack of bookmarks, moons or planets will explode into a selectable list.

Having full navigational capabilities available via the solar system map was also a great and legitimate work-around against soul-crushing lag where the local client / PC was relieved of its duty to render all of the **** on-screen. Fighting only via overview really helped in those days.

I asked CCP what happened via these forums when that change was made. Not a single mother ******* word. It was an honest and simple question, but CCP didn't give a **** then. And they certainly do not give two ***** these days.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.
oematoema
The Muppet Show
#14 - 2011-09-15 07:29:03 UTC
CCP: if you make new issues and feedback threads in which people can post and you can completely ignore, at least take care that you modify the version number after copy-pasting the opening post from the previous version.

Statement on behalf of CCP from Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online. Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so.
Floydd Heywood
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-09-15 08:51:10 UTC
These days it feels like every patch just fixes a part of the bugs introduced with the patch before, while breaking several things that weren't broken before What?

I hope it's only because your real devs were on vacation and you let the interns use your computers.
Mintrolio
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-09-15 11:36:51 UTC
CONFRIMIGN I STILL HAF DOOR

ALSO I SWEARIGN THAT PROMIS MADE TO CHANGIGN THIS.

ALSO STILL DOOR.

ALSO THIS IS VERY POOR.

KEEP UP THE BAD PATCHIGN!

MINTROLIO FUR CSM7
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-09-15 19:01:25 UTC
Quote:
Boosters and Implants

Booster penalties are no longer removed when undocking. Occasionally they will disappear from the augmentation tab but the changes are still applied. We will address this issue in a future patch.


what it really means,

Boosters and Implants

Booster penalties are no longer removed when undocking. Occasionally they will disappear from the augmentation tab but the changes are still applied. We know this issue exists but we dont really care nor cba to fix it anytime soon. look for a fix with in the next 18months, if you are lucky.
Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
#18 - 2011-09-17 10:25:13 UTC
Please can we go back to when ships cargo holds didn't auto-sort themselves when you undock. Quite often I want the contents of my hold to be in a specific order, if I wanted to sort it, I'd do it myself, I don't want the client auto-sorting for me.
Jeff Talon
Aberdeen Research Facilities
B.S.I.
#19 - 2011-09-18 16:42:44 UTC
I posted some feedback, and it part incorporated the upgrade of forums.

Now it is gone and there are no signs of any "this post has been moved" etc...

Any idea where it went?
oematoema
The Muppet Show
#20 - 2011-09-20 06:20:20 UTC
Jeff Talon wrote:
I posted some feedback, and it part incorporated the upgrade of forums.

Now it is gone and there are no signs of any "this post has been moved" etc...

Any idea where it went?


Let's hope it went to a better place than the graveyard these issues and fedback threads are...

Statement on behalf of CCP from Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online. Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so.
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