EVE General Discussion

First things first. This "home". People need to decide if it will be destructible or not.

If not, then it won't see any more use than current towers. People like to be able to dock and log out, and then log back in and still have their stuff.

You want people to make their "home" someplace other than a station or outpost, it will need to be just like a station or outpost. Outside of that, people aren't going to move.

Exactly that. If they wanted to implement housing, that housing should adhere to the MMORPG standard, otherwise NPC stations would totally blow it out of the water.

But don't worry about housing coming any time soon. Looking at the structures survey, CCP intends to split them into cooperative gameplay unless the idea is shot down and burned at a stake by the survey, and anyway 90% of the features will be whatever nullsec says.

Seriously, take the survey and say you don't use structures, never used and will not use them if they change... they still will ask your opinion on changing them rather than inquire WHY you don't use them.

Maybe because they're time-comsuming and destructable and their only benefits in hisec are for industry...?

It's not worth having if it's not worth losing.

My limited phantasy doesn't allow for a complete overhaul of the pos system. However, I would like it, if thedifferent elements would be seamlessly attached to the Tower at predefined places. This would make the structure more of a starbase. It's a litte stupid having the corporate hangar and the SMA just floating in space.

Reminds me of them Jawa's in starwars with their Sandcrawlers (complete with look)

I guess people don't live in WH.

I've thought about this over the years and what I would like is something like this:

POS: Personal Owner Structure

This would be a very simple device, essentially a mobile depot that you could add upgrades to to make it do more functions but on a small scale. So it an house a few ships, your stuff, do some repairs, and maybe some simple reactions, building things, or refining it would be limited in what it could do, and act like the current depot's.

COS: Corp Owned Structures

More like the current pos but different. You have upgrade slots and can add things you need, like personal hangers, ship docking rings, fore field, ractions, industry, labs etc. These could be mini outpost but with limited functionality. You can add on POS's to increase your personal access. But this would be primarly the staging area for corp wide stuff. Like in a wh, you can use the corp stuff and then have your personal area there as well note these can no longer moon mine (I want this functionality removed from pos' and made into a player done activity)

AOS: Alliance Owned Structures

This would be your outpost. Only its different. Destructable or conquerable. Can house more people and with better upgrades, one of which is a docking ring for titans and supers. They can do all the functionalist of the current outpost.


I think a mix of you can do some basic stuff with a POS, but for more functionality you need to get a COS and work with yoru corp, but for the best functionality, you need to work with your alliance and get a AOS.

Sov should be a mix of corp and alliance, imo. With alliance giving a bigger advantage then corp. And again, moon mining should NOT be passive. It needs to be an active income, or if it remains passive as well gets you way smaller results. i.e. you can set up a harvesting platform that mines way slower then you as a player could. but if you can;t be assed to mine... And the platform an be nuked, hacked, stolen from, and generally messed with. so its not very safe in the long run.

+1. I want to be able to build a deathstar in eve.

One thing I see as a design flaw in EVE Online is the vast numbers of NPC stations, especially in HiSec, with unlimited storage to boot. So you can have a system with 3 NPC stations and a dozen ore belts, along with missions. Why ever go anywhere else, except for a trade hub? You have everything you need right there. And you can store all your stuff in perfect safety forever.

It makes EVE small. And easy.

It would be better if systems that had stations... had less ore and anoms and such. Give players a reason to move around, a reason to set up "homes", be they semi-invincible POS, or more vulnerable "hidden bases" with habitation modules, etcetc, that could be destroyed without a reinforce timer (or a very short timer) where stuff can also be stored. Give the ability to "cloak" these areas - ie, make them harder to scan down, but not impossible.

Give more control to the players over this but don't make the decision arbitrary "live at a POS vs live in a station, there's little difference either way" kinda thing.

The primary issue is longevity. With stations and outposts (as they currently are), you can log out, un-sub, and be gone for half a year or more, and when you return, all your stuff is still there, ready to be used.

Having stations in resource empty systems is a possible solution, along with stripping stations of their industrial capabilities, but you can't have Agents in destructible stations. So Stations would still be mission hubs, and thus trade hubs.

I do not believe Eve could survive without indestructible locations where people can dock up and leave for long periods of time knowing that their things are safe.

Sure, we could rework Eve to be just like the l337 PvP crowd thinks it should be, to where everything is destructible, and the game would quickly die. Eve cannot survive without invulnerable locations.