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Shield AND Armor?

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Uppsy Daisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-12-21 00:55:10 UTC
All this trolling to one side, there ARE some perfectly valid fits involving both armor and shield tanking.

There is no point armor and shield tanking together if you have any specific bonuses for shield/armor resistances or repair amounts on the hull in question, or if you have fitted any modules/rig to boost resists.

If you boost resists on one of shield or armor you might as well fit reps for that, or you are wasting the boosted resists.

For example this Breacher fit is pretty popular, and works well:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/70704-Breacher-Dual-Tank.html

Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#22 - 2014-12-21 00:58:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Troll!

Agreed, although this one actually logs in, seen him around, he will be dealt with if it continues.

Your previous incarnation gave him a pod express ride a while back. Lol

Really? Damn, got to look that one up.

Thanks!!



FOUND IT!

Not linking to my old killboard here, but ...


On 2012/12/12 10:17 hrs
Value of destroyed items: 496.40 mil ISK

A full set of Improved learning implants!


Hahahahahahahaha xD

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Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

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Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#23 - 2014-12-21 01:02:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
double post.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Elena Ranning
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#24 - 2014-12-21 01:23:23 UTC
Uppsy Daisy wrote:
All this trolling to one side, there ARE some perfectly valid fits involving both armor and shield tanking.

There is no point armor and shield tanking together if you have any specific bonuses for shield/armor resistances or repair amounts on the hull in question, or if you have fitted any modules/rig to boost resists.

If you boost resists on one of shield or armor you might as well fit reps for that, or you are wasting the boosted resists.

For example this Breacher fit is pretty popular, and works well:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/70704-Breacher-Dual-Tank.html



lool :)) i love this fit more thank you but maybe add more defense items? i will see.

also always blasters with scramblers and hybrids with disruptors? or i can put instead one of the other no difference to keep range?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#25 - 2014-12-21 02:31:00 UTC
never dont mix your guns. better even to put some missiles in. rainbow attack pattern unicorn always wins.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#26 - 2014-12-21 02:35:58 UTC
Thees pursen is obveruslee in sayne

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#27 - 2014-12-21 02:39:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
active hull tank for the win

Kill them with laughter.


I find your lack of faith in the Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade's Triple Hull rep Celestis to be disturbing..

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-12-21 04:13:35 UTC
Triple-tanking is thing guize really!!! Don't listen to everything GD says guize!

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#29 - 2014-12-21 04:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jurico Elemenohpe
Belongs in Ships and Modules.
Also.
[Nidhoggur, Dual Tank]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized EM Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
Energized Kinetic Membrane II
Prototype Energized Explosive Membrane I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Capital Anti-Explosive Pump II
Capital Trimark Armor Pump II
Capital Core Defense Field Extender II

or

[Gnosis, Dual Tank]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Serene Repose
#30 - 2014-12-21 06:07:31 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
active hull tank for the win

Kill them with laughter.
But it's so delightful to watch them pare away those two first rings till they're a ripe, bright crimson only to hit the lead brick beneath. They keep tossing their pathetic little munitions at it in hopes of making a dent in a way that's so surrealistic it's mesmerizing...all the while your buddy sneaks up behind them in a Hound and POW! CRASH! SMASH!

"Holy salvage, Batman!"

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#31 - 2014-12-21 12:21:07 UTC
I.ve had some success in the past using masb+saar slasher , dual masb+saar semi-kite breacher , extender+saar tormentor etc. Its doable and fun even tough most will say its ******** and that you gimp your fit..its not.

Thing is masb doesnt use ur actual cap and dual tanking besides increasing your tank it also means you have no resistance holes cause on one hand you got kin explo resist on shield and em therm on armor at a decent lvl so one of your repper will be optimal and the other back up till your charges replenish.

And by using one mod of each on ships with limited mid/low slots you don't necesarly remove the posability of fitting gank or tackle.

Imo try it . It worked great for me, not to mention the wtf moment from your enemies is priceless

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

JMD
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-12-21 14:39:10 UTC
Eve is all about choice. If you really want a dual/triple tank fit, more power to you. Find a way to make it work for you.

Doesn't matter if no one else would use it, if you can come up with something that fits your style then that is all that matters in the end.
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#33 - 2014-12-21 14:42:43 UTC
The EVE Radio combat league frigate setups often sees dual tanked fits and they often do well.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-12-21 15:24:36 UTC



This would be an ideal example of tank options in EVE.

10% the ship in the loss
90% the '635 involved'.

Does it really matter what tank you have when there are 635 people locking you?

If you look at most T1 resists, EM and Therm resists go to armor, Kinetic and Explosive to shield. It's what makes Kin/ Therm damage the damage of choice. We all dual tank by design, we have no choice. At the same time, it's not a true option because of the way damage types are distributed.

Can you double tank, over tank? Yes and they work. Ask anyone who has wasted ten minutes beating on a Damnation but even the mighty Damnation would pop pretty quick if 635 people got locks on it. In cases like those, you have the i-win tank. It's called a station.
WASPY69
Xerum.
#35 - 2014-12-21 19:02:46 UTC
Bait ships are the only time you should ever dual tank.
Armor tank = a lot of utility mids. Shield tank = a lot of damage mods/nano etc in lows. Dual tank = Limited, to none in both utility and low slots.

Also OP, not sure if you're trolling or just special, but if you're serious then the answer is no, don't dual tank. I would suggest you look at some losses on the killboard to get an idea on how to fit your ship.

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Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2014-12-21 23:28:09 UTC
surpriseing the enemy? thats a simple baiting... but you need to know what ship ha has (and what fit can he have) or you will leave very funny km...

its not only tank type where you can surprise him, armor-tanked-small-ac's against frigs... armed/combat logi ships... not many will expect this

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE

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