Player Features and Ideas Discussion

TL;DR

• Announce that in 6 months freighters and haulers will lose their fatigue bonus.
• Add additional ratting sites that require teams to complete them.
• Recognise coalitions and allow one station per alliance, per system and increase system indexes based on that and activity.
• One month after capturing a station, let us access all the enemy loot.
• Seed null sec with NPC station only goods?

(Revised ratting point as sites needing teams, means less sites in total, less complaining from CCP and more chance the ratters will be able to stand and fight.)

Right, so Phoebe. Okay, force projection is now limited.

You still have an artificial force that makes people keeps more space than they need. SOV and stations. (Edit: ... and apparently a lack of anomolies)

** Please recognise coalitions in the mechanics ** so we can build a station on every planet and have one per alliance. One alliance can control the initial setup or in other words govern the system but if we can consolodate our space then we can use it more effectively and not try to grab so much of it.

I see it working out like this in a coalition:

Alliances would hold 1-2 systems as "home bases" / staging systems with only them in it.
Other systems would have the more powerful alliances mixed in
The lowest value systems and possibly border systems would have renters or new alliances.

Over all though, it would mean less systems per bloc and more blocs. It would mean a greater concentration of pilots, which would mean that the smaller you are the more you can defend your space.

Another thing that would be good is if we could mix our fleets in the coalitions and go through high sec. Have logi from alliance A being able to repp alliance B ship that was attacked.

Edit:

The overwhelming concern seems to be the sites and the number of pilots a system can support.
We could tie this into the stations and the activity, much like how systems can be "upgraded" now by their activity, use the multiple stations as a multiplier and further activity.

Something like this, as a very basic example:

If system = station +1 station then
Military Index = Index-now x1.5
Industrial Index = Index-now x1.5
EndIf

If NPCs killed = current max + 50% then military index = Index-now x1.2

Create an artificial extra few points of index based on stations and activity.

http://evenews24.com/2014/12/08/matt-greyscale-woodward-leaves-ccp/



We are still in the transition period.

My point being that we could have smaller tougher nuts to crack but many more of them.

Have a look around, a lot of coalitions and alliances are pulling back. CFC was withdrawing from the south west, if I remember correctly, as an example.

You only need 4 systems to have all the outposts you want.
The actual issue with Null Density is the number of players who can live in a system doing anything other than mining.
Average accepted number is about 10 people in an average system across every single time zone occupy all the PvE content a single system can provide.

While this number remains at this level, you will not see significant compression of members.
Null needs to be able to support a great many more per system, without significantly affecting max income per player.

make outright destroying them easier than capturing them, afterall, capturing one should be a GOAL of an invasion, its an important asset with extreme military utility, destroying it should be the easy path to system domination, capturing it should be difficult, maybe later on with LEGION integration for fun times. also make defenders able to enact scorched earth protocols to deny aforementioned military asset from the enemy (and ALL assets currently held inside it destroyed with a 10% drop chance)

How about, instead of making destructable stations...which is imo super hard to implement without ruining game, you remove abilitiy to build stations at all. Regions would be stuck with what they have, give them whole new meaning, maybe change how upgrades work.

I think the over all plan is to have null sec running as a player driven high sec with its own law enforcements, markets, etc.

Probably a dream but the waste land of systems can't be what they are hoping for or trying to make happen.

Edit:



Check into that. I think I read in a dev post or blog that it will never happen. Too many book marks bursting the download when you change systems.

Timers are vital. Getting a large alliance organised to do something takes time. There are also weaknesses in time zones.

The large alliances can't be bothered to build stations half the time. Just control it and rent out POSes.

An alliance of alliances, how long before these groups demand that alliances of alliances of alliances becomes a recognized group?

Under your plan how would we support tens of thousands of pilots with just one system when currently a single system can support at most 10 pilots at a time?

...wow.