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Asset Searching .. Needs to be made right again!

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Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#1 - 2011-12-17 16:50:54 UTC
First off let me say great job on the whole.

Now one step backwards that CCP made was in the asset search.

Prior to the patch and always had been there was a field next to the search name where you could enter the minimum amount of the item you were searching for.

As a builder of more than average scale I go through a fair bit of ore/ mins materials.
I place buy orders up in multiple regions and regularily search for freighterload or large volumes so I am not jumping a freighter around for 25 veldspar 5 jumps away.

This could be the pvper or incursion toon who is looking for the closest stash of ammo they have that is spread all over from following targets.

Now it looks for the number of stacks of the selected item ( kinda useless) hmm I have 3 stacks of veldspar.. 5 of each type.. 58 stations down the list I have 274 000 000 veldspar waiting and I have to open each tab to chech each and every station to find out where it is 0.o. when you buy vast quantities in multiple regions to supply many many toons each day with what they need it is very inefficient to not have this function.

besides all that my gf's mac freezes a lot running eve since the patch, help me keep her happy as well :D
CCP Atlas
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2011-12-17 17:18:33 UTC
The asset search is actually quite a bit more powerful than it was before. Check out this devblog (and discussion thread) for details: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3220
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#3 - 2011-12-17 17:34:20 UTC
sure you added a lot of bells and whistles but vastly reduced its actual functionality
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#4 - 2011-12-17 17:36:45 UTC
so now rather than just filling in an easy field I have to learn how to program my search bar?
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#5 - 2011-12-17 17:38:05 UTC
it was so easy before and then it is changed to some programming format...? how the heck do you search for minimum amounts of things?
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#6 - 2011-12-17 17:39:12 UTC
and there is no thread on the link posted
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#7 - 2011-12-17 17:44:40 UTC
Now, this works very well for simple searches. But when you´ve been collecting random piles of crap, I mean commodities, in every other station in in 100+ different solar systems...this picture gets messier.

This is why we added new keyword based search options in the asset window. Sneaky don't you think? Well most of us computer savvy capsuleers have experience of these from popular applications like outlook or gmail searches. This is pretty much the same. So now we can do searches like this:



you cannot assume peeps playing a computer game are computer savvy... never assume you make an ass out of u and me...
not to mention untill I placed pettiions and pointed it out here I had no idea and still don't know after reading how to search for what I need yet
mkint
#8 - 2011-12-17 18:23:47 UTC
CCP Atlas wrote:
The asset search is actually quite a bit more powerful than it was before. Check out this devblog (and discussion thread) for details: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3220

Powerful =/= functional.

Although OP spam bumping his own thread is kinda sad.

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Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-19 01:38:42 UTC
For christ sake, EDIT your posts, don't keep on adding new ones.

And they made it harder for YOU. It's better and easier for literally everyone else.
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#10 - 2011-12-19 03:24:56 UTC
Only feature I am missing is the ability to search in containers on stations.

Remove insurance.
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#11 - 2011-12-21 02:49:24 UTC


Although OP spam bumping his own thread is kinda sad.[/quote]


not bumping
making distinct statemants and not editing for a reason.

and as I stated for the greater part yay it is good, but if you like cheap ships then this driving prices up because I am simply buying more to compensate and driving prices up in my area.
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#12 - 2011-12-21 03:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenris Anis
Quote:


Although OP spam bumping his own thread is kinda sad.


Ordule wrote:

not bumping
making distinct statemants and not editing for a reason.

and as I stated for the greater part yay it is good, but if you like cheap ships then this driving prices up because I am simply buying more to compensate and driving prices up in my area.


Do as you like, see if I care.

Anyway if using this is already black magic for you, I am quite sure that I have some ship offers for you that are quite interesting ;-)

Quote:
This is the full list of supported keyword and the expected values:

type: matches item type names
group: matches the group name of items (battleship, mineral, fighter bomber etc.)
category: matches the category name of items (ship, module, commodity etc.)
minimum: minimum number of items in a stack
maximum: maximum number of items in a stack
metalevel: matches the metalevel of an item
metagroup: matches the meta group name of items (ie. faction, storyline, officer)
techlevel: the tech level of item (1, 2 or 3)
minsecurity: minimum security status of items location (-1.0 – 1.0)
maxsecurity: maximum security status of items location (-1.0 – 1.0)
security: matches security level as text (high, empire, low, null, zero)
system: name of the solar system item is located in
constellation: name of the constellation item is located in
region: name of the region item is located in
station: maches parts of station names
blueprint: matches either copy or original
Some additional notes to keep in mind:

All casing is ignored for both keywords and their respective values.
Text must be enclosed in double quotes if more than one word. If not only the first word will be used and the rest is lost into the ether.
The keywords are not translated
group:fighter bomber security:empire

will match all items in groups with "fighter" somewhere in the group name and located in empire space (that is high or low sec). The bomber word will serve no function in the search and is ignored.

group:"fighter bomber" security:empire

will match all items in groups with "fighter bomber" somewhere in the group name and located in empire space.

Remove insurance.
Ordule
Dark Nebula Gallente Division
#13 - 2011-12-27 18:53:39 UTC

2011.12.23 03:48:00 GM Catdog
Hi,

Do you mean that you are not able to search out items whose names contain the said punctuation marks? I have tried that myself and confirmed it. Could you please also post about it in the Features and Ideas Discussion section of our official forums? Thank you very much for pointing it out to us.

Best regards,
GM Catdog
EVE Online Customer Support


2011.12.21 15:49:00 Ordule
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3220
in here they state : Well most of us computer savvy capsuleers have experience of these from popular applications.

Grade school rule of thumb.. don't assume.. you make an ass out of u and me. Just because people play a computer game does not mean they are all computer savy when it is changed and it has taken me a lot of time to find information on how to work the damn thing ... and still have no idea >.<

Now I've tried colons, semi colons dashes periods anything I can think of and can get absolutely zero result to search the assets.

It just states nothing is found


2011.12.21 08:58:00 GM Rosemary
Hi,

Could you please elaborate on your "computer savy" problem here? Is there any help we can offer here?

Best Regards,
GM Rosemary,
The EVE Online Customer Support Team


2011.12.21 02:30:00 Ordule
I'll do that but how the hell do I find anything? I can't figure out your god damn "computer savy" search engine





2011.12.17 16:53:00 Ordule
thank you :)
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Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-27 18:57:43 UTC
Oh dear. Posting GM correspondence in the forum.


Someone going to get a slap for that....
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#15 - 2011-12-27 19:50:35 UTC
I am speechless. Only thing that comes to my mind right now is:

"Dude, your face!"

Remove insurance.