EVE New Citizens Q&A

ya I flew a cov ops around in high sec cloaked for a while to learn the mechanics. What people have said about the 2-2.5 Km thing is true. Other things to note is about a 1 second server request time for every action. I'm not exactly sure how that figures in here but I can say that if you land cloaked inbetween that 2-2.5 km range and you have clicked jump before warping it seems to take longer.

Things to try are clicking warp to zero and then clicking jump when you get under 2kms or hitting warp to zero the manually decloaking then hitting jump. Again try this out in high sec to get the feel for it first.

If people are being remoted boosted they can pretty much insta lock you. There is that 1 second server request time but essentially they can insta lock you. I seem to recall reading that remote sensor boosters do not suffer from diminishing returns or something like that. So if they can lock you nearly instantly and there will almost always be enough alpha in a gate came to pop a scanning frig then if there is any hiccup what so ever on your side you will get blown up. Essentially there is nothing you can do to garuntee you will not get blown up in that situation.

With regards to low sec: I live in null sec everyone that I play with lives in null sec and most of them are PvPers. None of them will do anything in low sec except maybe travel through it when there is no option. Most people agree that low sec is more dangerous than null sec.

If you go into low sec everyone that sees you is going to try to kill you. In low sec they shoot everything that moves and if it does not move they shoot it to see if it moves. IMHO if you don't want to PvP then you should not be in low sec. I know that there are some people that will say that they do low sec exploration and I'm sure it can be done but imho the risk versus reward when isk / hour is taken into account just isn't there in low sec.

All of the above being said you are far safer in space that you are familiar with. If you get to know the locals and set up some tactical bookmarks you can operate a lot more safely. If you have a tactical more than 150km from a gate you can get on grid and see if the gate is camped before jumping. Also you can warp to a safe spot while cloaked and check the people in local on the kill boards to see if they have a history camping gates in the system that you are in. And if you know the locals, keep in mind I'm not say are friendly with the locals just familiar with who is who and who does what and how they operate then you will have a pretty good idea of what is going on just by looking at who is in local.

I have been having the same issue in high sec gates, I hit jump but it just "hangs" for 2-3 seconds or even longer sometimes before finally jumping....is really annoying and no reason for "laggy" jumps. I could see how it would be a killer in low sec and 0.0

You literally just have to keep spamming the jump button and hope it catches up with itself and you finally are allowed to jump. Been happening a lot more since last patch.

I've had this happen with

1. switching between clients in windowed mode (decent chance)
2. switching between clients in full screen mode (regularly)
3. switching between clients in fixed window mode (occasionally)
4. extensive camera movements while in gate cloak or aligning after a gate cloak (occasionally)

Especially in case of 4. I make sure to reissue the jump or dock order while in warp.

Really? That's my bad, then. Sorry.

Confirming i have also been having this issue, i'll hit Jump / Dock and the ship wil Warp To 0. Only occasionally but regular enough to notice. It's happened couple of times since Rhea.

Hitting the Jump button a couple extra times in warp might help, i sometimes do it out of paranoia these days

And keep in mind that "unknown space" (C1-C3) is not the same as "dangerous unknown space" (C4-C5) or "deadly unknown space" (C6). Only the lower class wormholes (C1-C3) have data/relic sites without rats.

OP, should you want to avoid solo smartbombers in a covops...

1. Have a bookmark < 1 AU of the gate, singling it out for 5 degree scans. Make the BM mid warp by warping on 100 on a gate. Use this BM in the future to pre-check gates before you commit.

2. Check his angle from the gate. He's catching targets coming from somewhere. His AoE range is limited and he has to keep at a distance from the gate, usually 5000m. That means you can warp on 0 from the gate as long as you avoid coming in at the expected angle.

3. Warp on your BM and then back to the gate, out of his range but somewhat closer. While cloaked move towards a position on the opposite side of the gate he has to keep over 5000m in order to fire his bombs. Slowboat 150Km out or pick a celestial in line, and use it to make a BM over 150Km range (minimum warp-to distance). Use THIS bookmark warp at 0 on the gate from an angle.

4. Pass often enough and the BS pilot will adjust his angle just for you, on occasion, or use an alt / friend to catch you. Just understand your advantage is being able to scout the grid itself before warping to 0 on anything.

5. Might as well just warp on 30 and slowboat the rest if it's an unsupported BS.

This. A lot of the time when I reach a gate there is a delay between arrival and jump unless I spam the jump button.

I sometimes get the warp to zero effect when I've clicked the Jump or Dock button in the selected items window. Or at least I did and it was happening long before Rhea. I usually have 2 clients running in windows mode on dual screens.

I don't believe it is the result of dual clients. I've tried to establish what the problem is, but it doesn't replicate when you are looking. The best guess I have is that once upon a time I would spam the Jump/Dock button several times as I'm going to warp. More recently I am careful to click it once only and it seems to occur a lot less nowadays to the point that I can't remember the last time it happened. It seems to me that the client doesn't register the double/triple click properly and gets confused as to what the last command was, effectively cancelling the scheduled Jump/Dock action.

To the OP. When you are in this situation, it is hard to correctly judge how long things actually took. However, note that when you come out of warp normally, you are invulnerable for about 5 seconds during which time you cannot be targeted if you don't do anything. However, when you come out of a cloaked warp and are decloaked I often notice a couple of seconds where your ship then moves closer to the gate even though you are already in range, thus I suspect your invulnerability drops with the decloaking effect. The answer here is to spam the jump button if you have landed in a gate camp.

I would not advise decloaking early. The same gates that get camped regular are just as likely to have a cloaked Smart Bombing ship waiting for you. They will decloak and start bombing if they see you coming on D-Scan with far more likely chance of killing you.

Setting up perch bookmark about 200 Km above, below or to one side of the gate is the correct way to go, but this is a tedious process to do for every gate especially in areas you don't frequent regularly. As a priority you should do the ones that connect High Sec to Low Sec (Low sec side) and Low Sec to Null Sec (Null sec side), the first time you use them. These are the ones most likely to be camped. Then on the return journey warp to the bookmark and observe any camp before making the final warp and jump, in this case you can decloak prior to landing because you will be coming in at the wrong angle for the hidden smart bomber. When making such bookmarks ideally use an Interceptor fitted for speed and failing that a Slasher/Condor so fitted. Jump in, confirm it is clear of a camp and then start burning in a direction at a right angle from your distant out gate - so that the bookmark isn't inline with it. Avoid warping to 100K and then back-pedaling 50 Km to make your bookmark. Make your bookmarks at least 180 Km from the gate, because when you are coming in, you sometimes want to warp straight to the bookmark especially if scouting something else. However, depending on the type of gate when you jump in you can land up to 30 Km from the measured center of the gate and find you are too close to any bookmark placed 150 Km from the gate.