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Countering a neut
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Enki Kishargal
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-09-13 11:11:10 UTC


In a 1 vs 1 frigate fight, what will be the best way to counter an energy neut/vamp on the opponents ship?
olga evil
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-09-13 11:17:43 UTC
Two main ways to counter neuts is either fit a capactor booster or use range. If you can kite outside of the opponents neut range, his ability to beat you is greatly reduced.

Fitting a cap booster should hopefully buy you enough time to overcome his tank before running out of precious cap yourself.

These are the main two, there are others as I'm sure others with want to point out.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#3 - 2011-09-13 11:26:39 UTC
depends also on what boat is neuting you. if you got a domi with 3 med & 3 heavy neuts on you you're pretty much done. this is countered by ships with weapons that do not require cap.
Pure Destruction
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-09-13 11:30:05 UTC
or... simply JAM him...

No lock = No neuting

...
Enki Kishargal
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-09-13 11:36:24 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
depends also on what boat is neuting you. if you got a domi with 3 med & 3 heavy neuts on you you're pretty much done. this is countered by ships with weapons that do not require cap.



Please note as per my 1st post that in this case I am referring to frigates and frigates only.
Enki Kishargal
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-09-13 11:37:19 UTC
Pure Destruction wrote:
or... simply JAM him...

No lock = No neuting

...



Indeed I tried jamming with a 'Hypnos" Multispectral, but still he was able to neut me.
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-09-13 11:38:22 UTC
I'd go for the jam.. pretty much the only real way to counter.. nos won't replace enough of neut.. breaking range does nothing if you have to he that close to engage anyhow..

Cap boosters.. I hear 75 work if you hold cap at magic 36% stable.. where his nuet does not do enough to cap before booster hits I guess..

Neut of your own...
Run..
Think that bout covers it.
Cyzlaki
BRAWLS DEEP
HYPE-TRAIN
#8 - 2011-09-13 12:08:07 UTC
1. Fit a Stasis Webifier II
2. Orbit outside of neut range
3. Win
Chee
hirr
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2011-09-13 12:16:48 UTC
on frig level use web/scram to get the range, tho a single nos tends to be enough to keep ur web/scram going (using missiles/projectiles) if the other has but one neut. sentinel, meh ur ****** if ur dont get close quick enough.

Jump distance would be 7.876 lightyears but your jump drive only allows for jumps within 7.875 lightyears.
whaynethepain
#10 - 2011-09-13 12:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: whaynethepain
As above, also you have the option of turning on your Energy Vampire, just after the characters starts cycling his neut, and suck a bit of power back.
Good luck trying to get that one right though, very difficult, but very satisfying if done right.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.
DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-09-13 12:38:08 UTC
Use a buffer/passive tank with capless weapons.

Use as little active mods as possible. Try to power you scram with a small nos. Another way to shut down his neut is to neut him dry yourself.

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Enki Kishargal
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-09-13 12:51:20 UTC
Thank you all for the tips, much appreciated Big smile
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-09-13 15:41:52 UTC
ECM drones.
Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-09-13 16:44:38 UTC
Good day, Enki Kisharga:

Enki Kishargal wrote:


In a 1 vs 1 frigate fight, what will be the best way to counter an energy neut/vamp on the opponents ship?




Given a 1v1 frigate fight where the other ship is a frigate, then use a NOS or a capacitor booster or both.

The other option given the opponent is a frigate or a ship using a small neut, would be to web them and orbit towards max scram range (which is typically under web range).

Remember to overheat web and scram to increase the range of each.

Thank you.

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Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#15 - 2011-09-13 16:52:57 UTC
Basilisk alt with large cap transfer?

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-09-13 18:07:17 UTC
Enki Kishargal wrote:


In a 1 vs 1 frigate fight, what will be the best way to counter an energy neut/vamp on the opponents ship?


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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#17 - 2011-09-15 04:13:34 UTC
From what I have learned recently in the past week or so, the best way to counter neuts in a frigate battle is range. A Dramiel with a kiting range will surely outperform a neut frigate.

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Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#18 - 2011-09-15 19:49:47 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
From what I have learned recently in the past week or so, the best way to counter neuts in a frigate battle is range. A Dramiel with a kiting range will surely outperform a neut frigate.


A kiting slicer also fits the bill. Blink
McMorrow
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-09-15 20:38:51 UTC
kill him before you run out of cap?

I think everything else has been covered..

Two tears in a bucket...

Pure Destruction
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-09-16 11:25:41 UTC
Enki Kishargal wrote:
Pure Destruction wrote:
or... simply JAM him...

No lock = No neuting

...



Indeed I tried jamming with a 'Hypnos" Multispectral, but still he was able to neut me.



Use RACIAL ECM, not multispectral, if you know what ship's race he flies...
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