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Multiple clients - which graphic card to use?
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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-12-17 09:28:07 UTC
Hey folks,

I’m running a rather dated HD 6970 with 2GB of memory.

Now after rhea has hit, I’m experiencing some lag when running multiple clients at once. 2 run just fine with max settings, but 3 are too much. But since I like the improvements, I don’t want to lower the settings.

Therefore I’m considering upgrading my graphic card. Do you guys have any recommendations?

Thanks and cheers!
stup idity
#2 - 2014-12-17 10:29:17 UTC
GTX 970

power efficient, high performance and a reasonable price tag (little over 300€ here).

Right now there aren't any real alternatives until you are on a budget, want to wait for the next generation of Radeons or want to spend considerably more.

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Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#3 - 2014-12-17 10:50:04 UTC
The R9 200 series cards will do it too. 285, 290, 290X. I run 2 x Powercolor 290 and run 5 accounts all on low (but it can do it on high if I wish, I just run it on low in the summer to stop overheating.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-12-17 11:33:34 UTC
msi r9 280(with a hefty overclock) here and two maxed out is no problem whatsoever, i haven't tried 3 yet though.

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Takagamu
Core Runners
#5 - 2014-12-17 12:01:13 UTC
Using a GTX660Ti
5 clients no problem (main at highest, others at low, not tried better settings yet)
4 monitors possible (2x DVI, 1x HDMI, 1x DisplayPort)

Around 200 €
Sol Project
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#6 - 2014-12-17 12:52:03 UTC
Just wondering here and notncaring about your financial situation ...
... but why not save the money and instead have them run fluidly on low settings?

My GT650M was able to run three clients on low settings ...
... spread out on a 1920x1080 resolution ...
... each client set at around 1300x700+ (around what I was used to) ...
... fluidly.

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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-12-17 14:42:26 UTC
On a HD7850OC here, and indeed, after Rhea, 3 clients running at high are starting to stutter a bit and that's with AA turned off. I run them windowed and find that minimizing one of the 3 clients goes a long way towards achieving 60-ish frame rates again.

Thinking of upgrading myself, anything other than a GTX970 seems like a waste atm to me though. Even though it is a bit pricey, the value on it is really good. You get highest single GPU tier performance and very good power efficiency too. No other GPU get's close in a price/performance/power usage comparison. This will most likely be the case for at least several months to come. If you're an AMD fanboy, you could go for a 290X, compares well on price and performance (roughly similar) but is much more power hungry. Or you could wait for the new AMD generation, no telling how long your wait will be exactly though.

If you're an Nvidia fanboy: 970 or if you can spare the mullah, 980.

If you don't care one way or the other: 970 again.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-12-17 15:10:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Tore Smith wrote:
Hey folks,

I’m running a rather dated HD 6970 with 2GB of memory.

Now after rhea has hit, I’m experiencing some lag when running multiple clients at once. 2 run just fine with max settings, but 3 are too much. But since I like the improvements, I don’t want to lower the settings.

Therefore I’m considering upgrading my graphic card. Do you guys have any recommendations?

Thanks and cheers!


Your cpu is the bottle neck not gpu. The gpu can even run smooth if you`re running on a low budget. The cpu in the other hands get the load.

I run 6 eve at ones using R9 295x2 in crossfire (2x R9 295x2) using 6 screens. Like say early

My old setup is hd5970 also in crossfire and using 6 screen running smooth also. However that was a old amd phenom2 x4 695 oc 4,ghz edition this cpu was done for it. Can not handle the load. So i use a new cpu for this job is Intel i7-5960X 3,0 GHz (3,5 GHz Turbo Boost) . Yah its over kill.

Also use a ssd or hybrid HDD. This will decrease the wait loading time in sectors. (warping)
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#9 - 2014-12-17 17:25:39 UTC
amd r9 270 (its either that or I got a 290 I forget, not home atm)

I can run 5 clients on high settings with no issues.

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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-12-18 08:14:14 UTC
Thanks for the very interesting input!

I was also considering a GTX970. It seems to be the best deal at the moment. And I like the aspect of it not being so power hungry because I might get away without upgrading the power supply, too. So thanks for confirming this.

BTW it will be my first nvidia card since a long time. Always liked ati a bit more, so this better be good :-)

Also, since you guys mainly use multiple monitors (I use one with windowed clients) do you have a recommendation for a two monitor setup?

@Johan Civire
Regarding the CPU being the bottleneck, Im not so sure. I didnt have any problem before they upgraded to this physical rendering thing. Can you elaborate on this?



Cheers!
Capsups
Atomic Mangocorp
#11 - 2014-12-18 08:44:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Capsups
Tore Smith wrote:


@Johan Civire
Regarding the CPU being the bottleneck, Im not so sure. I didnt have any problem before they upgraded to this physical rendering thing. Can you elaborate on this?



Cheers!



Well, data in the game doesn't go straight from HDD / SSD -> GPU, it goes HDD / SSD -> CPU -> RAM -> GPU. If your CPU struggles to keep the data flowing, your GPU won't be able to be utilised fully, resulting in a lower FPS.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-12-18 13:32:53 UTC
Tore Smith wrote:
Thanks for the very interesting input!

I was also considering a GTX970. It seems to be the best deal at the moment. And I like the aspect of it not being so power hungry because I might get away without upgrading the power supply, too. So thanks for confirming this.


That is one of the reasons I'm eyeballing it too. Would not need to upgrade power supply in that case.

Keno Skir
#13 - 2014-12-18 16:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
I'm recently using a Radeon R9 290x Sapphire, which i have as yet been unable to upset even with 4 clients running on ultra.

Linky : http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/product_index.aspx?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1227&pid=2283&psn=000101&lid=1

I'm only using the 4gig but the 8gig is now only around £50 more.

The Sapphire cooling system is amazing and it comes overclocked with room for further boosting.

Tore Smith wrote:
BTW it will be my first nvidia card since a long time. Always liked ati a bit more, so this better be good :-)


I still prefer ati (AMD).

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#14 - 2014-12-18 16:20:37 UTC
Tore Smith wrote:
Thanks for the very interesting input!

I was also considering a GTX970. It seems to be the best deal at the moment. And I like the aspect of it not being so power hungry because I might get away without upgrading the power supply, too. So thanks for confirming this.

BTW it will be my first nvidia card since a long time. Always liked ati a bit more, so this better be good :-)

Also, since you guys mainly use multiple monitors (I use one with windowed clients) do you have a recommendation for a two monitor setup?

@Johan Civire
Regarding the CPU being the bottleneck, Im not so sure. I didnt have any problem before they upgraded to this physical rendering thing. Can you elaborate on this?



Cheers!


Old test to check the bottleneck:

If reducing resolution increases fps, it's a fillrate issue and your card is too slow.
Less pixel to draw = less pixel to calculate.

If there is no increase or significant change, then it's the cpu.



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Sebastor Cane
The Outlet
#15 - 2014-12-18 19:39:20 UTC
750 ti 9 clients on lowest setting no problems

but

I have 8 gigs on memory and an i7 4990 or something


Eve is all CPU
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-12-18 19:54:02 UTC
Radeon 2600, 512 DDR2 onboard. (2007 card)

Runs 3 clients on low no trouble.

I saw i7 computers downtown for $399 Cdn last week. I will see what they want for them come boxing day and might upgrade.
Adrian Dixon
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
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#17 - 2014-12-18 20:21:13 UTC
I run two clients on a GTX 760 at full settings with no issues even with many other windows programs running as well.
My main character is on a ultra wide monitor with a resolution of 2560x1080
My alt is on a standard widescreen with a resolution of 1920x1080

I would highly recommend an ultrawide monitor to any EVE player or any FPS games player. The extra width on a single screen is just what EVE needs, and on FPS games the extra peripheral vision is very immersive.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-12-19 13:31:23 UTC
Sebastor Cane wrote:
750 ti 9 clients on lowest setting no problems

but

I have 8 gigs on memory and an i7 4990 or something


Eve is all CPU
With 9 clients I can imagine the CPU coming in to play. With just three, not so much. If using a single client I can get 800+ fps out of my card at lowest settings (still at 1080p though). If EVE was all cpu I would not be able to jump from 130-160fps to 800+ by just changing some graphics settings.
Mara Gus
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-12-19 22:13:05 UTC
my i5 @4900 is np to eve is like i have open firefox i think lag come from my HD eve no use ram to run fine / the eve is only game to i have lag all time to i click to somting ne eve try get it from HD any try eve on SSD?
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The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2014-12-20 01:03:56 UTC
Triple SLI'd GTX780TIs.

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