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Celestial phenomenon: Caroline's Star (The Bright Star)
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Aurora Fatalis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-12-06 09:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Aurora Fatalis
There is an accretion disk in the middle of the supernova.

There is a black hole already in there.

The Seven Events of the Apocalypse wrote:
From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity. Not an entity such as any you can conceive of, nor I; an entity more primordial than the elements themselves, yet constantly coming into existence even as it is destroyed. It is the Child of Chaos, the Pathway to the Next.

The darkness shall swallow the land, and in its wake there will follow a storm, as the appetite of nothing expands over the world.

From the formless void's gaping maw, there springs an entity.


It is the fourth calamity. It's the only explanation that makes sense. I've finally figured it out. I can finally sleep.

If Chribba told you not to trust him, would you?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#62 - 2014-12-06 15:59:40 UTC
Ah, then if there are three more, it means, we don't die from this!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2014-12-07 23:47:35 UTC
I heard that a researcher at the Center for Advanced Studies, my alma mater, was looking into a rumored Jovian project as the cause of this phenomenon. Supposedly their mathematical team was trying to divide by zero. Perhaps they succeeded?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#64 - 2014-12-12 05:17:00 UTC
It seems that now Caroline's star relativistic jets have became way smaller.
The matter around it forms a disc, that I suppose is rotating around the center at quite high speed.

I doubt that it would be a supernova, as I don't see upper layers from the star to be flying in all direction.
I believe that the phenomenon is a typical black hole, that have just eaten a star.

Here is an example of the view from Black Rise region (please excuse me for quality, low camera drones lens resolution)
http://i.imgur.com/MoRTH03.png

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Bob Maths
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-12-17 12:28:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Bob Maths
Verdis deMosays wrote:
I heard that a researcher at the Center for Advanced Studies, my alma mater, was looking into a rumored Jovian project as the cause of this phenomenon. Supposedly their mathematical team was trying to divide by zero. Perhaps they succeeded?


Nothing substantial, it's just dealing with infinities. Difficult to do computationally however.

May be a quasar though although I highly doubt that. The ring forming may be similar to how discs around gas giants form due to the lack of density which may indicate a supernovae as when they bulk they become less dense until it collapses. Who knows, CCP is probably using real astronomical data for their EVE universe which is the bigger mystery.

Diana Kim wrote:
It seems that now Caroline's star relativistic jets have became way smaller.
The matter around it forms a disc, that I suppose is rotating around the center at quite high speed.

I doubt that it would be a supernova, as I don't see upper layers from the star to be flying in all direction.
I believe that the phenomenon is a typical black hole, that have just eaten a star.

Here is an example of the view from Black Rise region (please excuse me for quality, low camera drones lens resolution)
http://i.imgur.com/MoRTH03.png


Can be indicative of a blackhole, not necessarily so because we don't have a proper way to do any astronomical analysis on it.
Sabin Minks
Furries Ruin Everything
#66 - 2014-12-18 06:39:16 UTC
Let us look at the facts here. Of all events that have happen through out New eden that we are aware off.

Now, I have looked over many records here.

The Bright Star. Defyed our understanding of physics.
Caroline's Star has done the same thing.
The Seyllin event, and the Isogen. Caused wormholes to begin to form all through new eden.

All of these events moved fast then light. Warp Drives, Jump gates, and Jump drives allow us to do this ourselves. Our subspace transmissions move faster then light.

Also take into account this has happen in Jovian space, while we know the Jovian are far more advanced, we are not aware of what they have been working on. So, I am to assume that whatever happen out there was either intenional or accedental actions brought on by the jovians.

But, here is the real question. Where are the remaining jovians? There whole star clusters stargate system went down, and we are assuming this is a super nova? A super nova would be in progression from it red dwarf state for millions of years. Which would mean the Jovians would be well aware of an unstable star.

The Sister of Eve has lost contact with all of there stations in Anoiks...

Also, Sleepers have been detected since this event has happen. I see them at stargates, in astroid belts. Scanning ships and moving about plantary orbital custom offices.

Also, in my travels I have come across through unsecured space what seems to be unstable cloaked structures.

All of this might not be connect.
But I am inclinded to think it is.

Something strange is going on, The Sisters know more then they are willing to let Capuleers know, or the empires.
Even there new line of ships run unusal shielding in sublight and warp engines allowing for Covert cloaking technology.

Something is going on here....
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#67 - 2014-12-20 10:32:26 UTC
I guess at this point it should be clear already that these events (The Bright Star and Caroline's Star) isn't the same event.

But I agree with Mr. Minks, that there are similarities. And I don't want to put Jovians, Sisters, covert aliens or other barely related factors here.

Obviosly the phenomenon is the explosion of some sort. Too fast and unusual for supernova or black hole. I have a rather weird hypothesis though.

Do you remember that when this star was found, Sansha was running away without wormhole? Well, I think that maybe old jerk Kuvakei has opened a hole into the star, and that's what happens when it... well, when it happens.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Sabin Minks
Furries Ruin Everything
#68 - 2014-12-22 14:35:52 UTC
Hmmm... I didn't take into account that last bit of intel into all of this.

So how my tin foil theroy has another group of interest to add to the list....

A hole in a star? That would explain why a star would go nova with no warning.
Kinthras
Tequila Sunrise Enterprises
#69 - 2014-12-22 17:35:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinthras
Diana Kim wrote:
Do you remember that when this star was found, Sansha was running away without wormhole? Well, I think that maybe old jerk Kuvakei has opened a hole into the star, and that's what happens when it... well, when it happens.

Sansha incursions do still happen and they still use wormholes. This was the only time they used a gate instead of a wormhole. So it could mean their wormhole machine malfunctioned near Jove space or that they intentionally did not use it near the phenomenon. Maybe they fear it?


Aurora Fatalis wrote:
It is the fourth calamity. It's the only explanation that makes sense. I've finally figured it out. I can finally sleep.

The fourth one could also have been the Seyllin incident. It was a mighty event that occured across the whole of New Eden (as can be seen in this leaked old image) and maybe beyond.. perhaps it is a process rather than a single "boom" event.. and still unfolding?

Maybe we see the fifth calamity here.. Sleeper Drones coming to New Eden, could they be the "little brother making his final sorrowful steps home but is not welcome"?


Sabin Minks wrote:
A hole in a star? That would explain why a star would go nova with no warning.

Maybe it wasn't a star at all?

Jove Observatory location project: Datafile
Xiaohui
#70 - 2014-12-24 12:03:05 UTC
Remember that the shortest distance between two objects is not a straight line, it is zero.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#71 - 2014-12-24 14:04:07 UTC
Kinthras wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Do you remember that when this star was found, Sansha was running away without wormhole? Well, I think that maybe old jerk Kuvakei has opened a hole into the star, and that's what happens when it... well, when it happens.

Sansha incursions do still happen and they still use wormholes. This was the only time they used a gate instead of a wormhole. So it could mean their wormhole machine malfunctioned near Jove space or that they intentionally did not use it near the phenomenon. Maybe they fear it?

If they would fear, they would run away screaming in terror from fleets we field against their "incursions".
I believe they have simply *CENSORED* up and that exact their wormhole instance went poof, probably causing this celestial event. I'd like to note, that this is simply my hypothesis, that isn't backed by any facts.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#72 - 2014-12-24 14:05:25 UTC
Xiaohui wrote:
Remember that the shortest distance between two objects is not a straight line, it is zero.

If that would be true, our all space would collapse into a dot.
Or at least into a sponge, I have seen a simulations how a space would organize if the principle of causality wasn't set as a necessity.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Anslo
Scope Works
#73 - 2014-12-24 15:49:31 UTC
Xiaohui wrote:
Remember that the shortest distance between two objects is not a straight line, it is zero.

Wait what.

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