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We want your corp little things!

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#141 - 2014-12-17 12:24:14 UTC
Aside from a need for a massive overhaul of the interface, some stuff that comes to mind:

1. Make it illegal by CONCORD to shoot corp, alliance or fleet members because it makes no sense. It makes players distrust the very people they are teaming up with. Not very constructive to promote joining a player corp or public fleets. For fighting within corp we have a dualing mechanic now. In the same vein the entire Wardec system needs a serious rework, maybe to include targeting of specific players, but that's a different issue all together.

2. With the above in mind, maybe create an option for a corp to have open recruitment. In other words, applications no longer need to be approved and everyone can join and leave as they desire. Doing so is in the interest of giving corp CEO's a choice in how they want to run their corp. And maybe lowering the barrier of entry into a player corp for new players.

3. Remove or increase the limit on the amount of corp wallets, hangers and titles.

4. Please let us name and assign access to hangers in different locations independently.

5. Hanger logging. PLEASE. Whenever something is taken from a public corp hanger it needs to be logged just like on secure containers. Create a role for viewing the log, maybe even separate roles per hanger. Why? Right now people are able to take every single thing in a corp hanger and there is no way of figuring out who took it. In essence corp thieves can never be caught unless using annoying workarounds with containers and passwords. Also needs hanger logging on Ship Maintenance Arrays on POS's, but I dunno if that falls within the scope of corp little things.

6. Add a search input field in the Member List window. Yes, you can search for members in the People & Places window but it really doesn't make sense that the member list doesn't have a search function.

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Dragon Empire.
#142 - 2014-12-17 12:39:44 UTC
Corporation hangar access log!
Corporation hangar access log!
Corporation hangar access log!

Why every f**ing secure container has access log and the huge corporation hangar at the station hasn't ???
Millar Shout
Horizon Eventus
UNREAL Alliance
#143 - 2014-12-17 13:18:21 UTC
1. Need standing with timer.
Example: my corp roaming and see some blob and another neutral corp roaming, roamings talk each other and decide fight together but just for this fight. They set each other +5 for one hour. When timer is over - standings resets to neutral with alert

2. Need alliance role to set alliance standing - it's very uncomfortable when i need relogin to executor'sorp char just to set standing.

3. Need ingame corp tool - corp members can mark all their alts in corp. And ceo\director can set role to all that alt in 'one click'

4. Need mark for chats\overview when you have peronal\corp standing but alliance standing override it

5. roles with timer. or role for one time.
Example: member want set up pos, but he is not a pos manager, so i'm grant him this one time role an he can set up just one pos.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#144 - 2014-12-17 13:40:50 UTC
The more you over think the plumbing the easier it is to stop it up. This is a time-honored ability civilization developed thousands of years ago - waaaaaay pre-computer; organizing division of labor. Why folks jump to recreating how permissions are granted on server networks as a "simple" solution to a simple problem is beyond me.

My suggestion to whomever will undertake this effort is the KISS rule - Keep It Simple, Stupid. Think of it in terms of layers and layers of bureaucracy - or NOT. A lot of ideas here involve having an organizing tool provide them with fool proofing. The problem with that is, the only way to fool proof managing an organization is to not have a fool run it.

This panel shouldn't be insurance against CEO's stupid decisions at the expense of being an easy to use tool.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#145 - 2014-12-17 14:02:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Hi,

we want to know what are your biggest pain points in the corp interface so please post below with some nice examples

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I made some graphic explaining how I would like members window to look.

Edit: whew, edited somewhat the graphic.
Saturday Beerun
Lost Ark Enterprises
#146 - 2014-12-17 15:26:00 UTC
Roles,role division.Both giving and removing.Corp management needs an overhaul of everything from small to huge!!

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Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#147 - 2014-12-17 16:10:33 UTC
It would be extremely nice if roles could be granted for individual hangars and PoSes and such rather than for them as a category.

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GeeShizzle MacCloud
#148 - 2014-12-17 16:19:49 UTC
im concerned that addressing low hanging fruit is merely work that would become obsolete as i cannot envisage a redesign that keep a large part of how corp management is now and therefore would keep the changes you'd like us to suggest.

if you want to know the direction you should be taking with corp management you should ask and look to the large mega corps and how they deal with managing their members. Above and beyond that alliances have become the de facto large scale management arena now and you should be thinking of how CCP and Eve Online can replicate what a well organised alliance offers their members with their myriad of services.

if you want Eve Online to be more inclusive of the activities that happen in a modern alliance you need to close the gap that small alliances and corps can offer members in terms of services compared to that of large alliances and coalitions.
Greygal
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#149 - 2014-12-17 16:23:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Greygal
My highest priority little thing at this point in time: For the love of all that is good and holy and righteous in the universe, I beg of you, PLEASE PLEASE GET RID OF DELAYED MODE in chat channels! Especially alliance chat, but really, all chat rooms.

I'm going nuts with newbros complaining that "nobody is on when I log on" because they don't see anyone in Alliance Chat (which is by default "delayed"). I explain how to change the settings so you can see who is on (deselect "show only recent speakers", select all other options in that menu) but that work-around is buggy as a flytrap, unintuitive, and just plain silly. If Local Chat can handle thousands of players in real time, I think the time is long past for Alliance Chat and all other chat rooms to be able to handle more than 50 players in real time. If you'd like, I can write a wall-of-text post about just how many other social benefits this little thing would bring Big smile

My corporate little-things wishlist:

1. Tooltips on like everything, especially roles, showing what it does.

2. Unlimited hangar divisions. Or at least more.

3. Unlimited wallet divisions. Or at least more.

4. Rename individual divisions in different offices and/or pos's, so one office may have Division 1 named "Free for all" and another office might have Division 1 named "Cyno Stuff", as an example.

5. As others have stated, Corp Hangar Log!! Who took what, when!

6. More corp bookmarks, alliance bookmarks please, and let us copy more than 10 at a time oh please please!!

7. List of ex-members

8. More options/icons/etc in corp logo creator

9. Fix the "last online" verbose text to be accurate representation of when a pilot was last online, specifically the "last week" and "last month" texts. Right now, a pilot who was last online on November 30 will show as "last month" (or more than a month or whatever it says) on Dec 1, which while technically accurate, is a bit unintuitive. Better that the "last month" be "more than 1 month" and show on those who haven't logged in for more than 30 days.

10. Think this may be a bug that came with Rhea, but I noticed today I can't see what ship people are in when docked again on the corp member list/fleet composition list. Will double-check, and file bug report.

11. Make it so audit log container logs show who took what out of the container (not just who changed the container itself)

12. Alliance offices/hangars

13. Alliance wallets

14. Rename fits the name of the fit automatically

15. Make it so alliance contracts show on the front page of contracts window (like corp contracts do right now)

16. Alliance & corp chat window - create a role so others can edit it. Right now, just the ceo/directors can edit it.

And finally, one last little wish: Please increase or remove the limit on mailing lists. Pretty please!

Thanks so very much!

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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#150 - 2014-12-17 18:41:05 UTC
Another thing - make it easier to lock down or unlock a large number of items.

I don't mean in terms of "security" - having to vote locks and vote/sanction unlocks is ok, what isn't is the sheer number of unnecessary clicks that are involved.

If you want an experiment to try, take a dozen blueprints of any sort, drop them in your hangar and count the number of clicks involved in first locking them all down, the unlocking them and returning them to your hangar.

Why can't we mass lock/unlock things?

SpaceSaft
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2014-12-17 19:23:02 UTC
If you have to make a post reminding people to post little things, chances are people are not going to care about those until you fix the big things. Also you're going to have to revisit them anyway when you do tackle the big alliance and corporation issues. So...

Why?
Badda Shardani
Doomheim
#152 - 2014-12-17 19:31:13 UTC
A feature where you could send out "corp invites" would be cool. Just click and you're in!
Althalus Stenory
Flying Blacksmiths
#153 - 2014-12-17 20:28:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Althalus Stenory
Hello,

Here are a few "not so little" things :)

Bulletins:
- add a notification when someone create a new corp bulletin
- summary of all created bulletins
- ability to link bulletin
- ability to "pin" bulletin on top (or at leasts, pin a link with bulletins title)


Home / Details:
Remove accordion and make more tabs (details, offices, stations, solarsystems?)


Recruitment:
I think you should split into 2 parts :
- My application / search for Corporation
- Corporation advert / Corporation application management

Both deal about the "same" thing, but not the same point of view :
- the first is about my own char, I'm used to it, but it would be better somewhere in my character sheet
- the latter is about managing my corporation, thus it is in the corporation window.

Adding a "renew" button, for corporation advert, instead of having to write it again & again & again & ... Roll

For the welcome mail :
- display char left
- move the button somewhere but not at the bottom of "corporation ads" ?

Membership application : move the checkbox somewhere more visible ?


Votes:
Seriously, do I really need to say something about it ? Please, it's not a little thing, but it needs a major update!


Assets:
- Ability to unrent offices from here too : we often have to check assets before unrenting
- Search through all locations, not only one per search (deliveries, in space, etc)


Colors:
- Easier color in titles !
- Color in "custom title" (right click member -> edit member)

Divisions:
- Ability to create up to X wallet/asset division


And last, but not least :
Roles:
- More titles slots / unlimited
- Roles, roles, roles, roles, roles, roles, roles, roles....., roles! And title !

Thanks for reading ! :)



It's sad to see some people asking for things that already exists... (for long time ago, or since Rhea) :/ when it's sometimes just because of the UI :/

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Drailen
Doomheim
#154 - 2014-12-17 20:40:48 UTC
Querns wrote:
Also, getting rid of limited office slots in stations/outposts entirely would be AMAZING.
If we're replacing legacy features then this is a winner. Also.
Noriko Mai
#155 - 2014-12-17 21:15:59 UTC
Make my corp executive corp of goonswarm please. It's just my little thing :)

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Krops Vont
#156 - 2014-12-18 03:42:36 UTC
Make poco's transferable remotely. :D

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Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#157 - 2014-12-18 04:39:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sakaane Eionell
Individual pilots have a Notes tab (under Show Info). It would be nice if Corporations and Alliances also had a Notes tab on their Show Info windows.

The Corporation interface has a minimum height that is more than half of a 1080p screen. This is annoying. If I want to view less of the window vertically, let me shrink it.

I would like to echo suggestions made by others for some kind of organizational or hierarchy chart similar in design to the Fleet wing/squad tree so that I can organize my members by divisions I create (such as "Combat" and "Industry") and by seniority so that newer members can see who they can approach for help and where their place is in the group. I want to be able to have subdivisions too (such as "Combat" being split between PVE and PVP, or Industry being split between Mining and Production).

Someone suggested more taxation options for both corporations and alliances. Yes please. In particular would really like to be able to automatically tax a portion of the ore my miners bring in so that they can go out and do ops solo or as a group and nobody has to worry about what's "fair" to donate to the corp/alliance, or is everybody donating the same amount, etc. Less micromanagement would be great. I envision this working in some fashion like reprocessing.

HOME TAB
The most recently-edited bulletin always pops to the top of the list. This might be okay for some people but it would be nice to have a choice for the sort order, for example, alphabetically by title, or manually by a settable priority list.

Corp (and alliance) bulletins are too hard for new members and/or new players to find. They need to be linkable in channel MOTDs.

The Edit Corporation Details window needs to be resizable and it should have rich text options just like character bios.

If I click the "Update With My Skills" button in the Edit Corporation Details window and the number doesn't change, how do I know the game actually did anything, or if the button is broken? A confirmation of some kind would be nice.

Improved variety of symbols, symbol quality, colors, and number of layers in the corp logo picker would be great. Existing symbols shouldn't be removed, but could be tweaked to look less 1998.

The number of Divisions for the hangar and for the wallet should be independent of one another. If I rename these Divisions these names should be displayed everywhere, especially when setting roles.

RECRUITMENT TAB
I feel the Search and My Applications tabs don't really belong in the Corporation interface. I think elsewhere in the thread it was stated that Search was going to be moved to People and Places but I think My Applications could go too. My feeling is the Corporation window should only be about the corporation you are currently in, not where you might be hoping to go.

Why is the "Edit Welcome Mail" button on the Corporation Ads tab? This is not intuitive.

If a corporation ad is about to expire, the CEO/Directors should get a notice about it rather than having to track the expiry date manually. Alternatively, an "auto renew" tickbox would be nice.

The Applications to Corporation tab displays a blank window if there are no apps. Similar to the Wars tab in Show Info, there should be some kind of placeholder text here so that people know the window has actually finished loading if there are no results.

MEMBERS TAB
The "Last Online" column is horribly misleading. People who are new to the corporation are going to look here and get the wrong impression about activity levels. For example, if it's December 18 EVE time and one of my corp members was last logged in on December 17 EVE time, this column should not display "Last Week"! Likewise, if it's December 18 EVE time and one of my corp members was last logged in on December 10 EVE time, this column should not display "Last Month"! Yet it does!

Find Member in Role/Role Management/Title Management - As others have said, the entire roles/titles system needs to be scrapped and rebuilt. I would actually prefer a role picker structured in similar fashion to the Notifications setting window: group abilities by category and let me select them individually.

Speaking of roles, the TRADER role is incomplete. People with this role can set buy/sell orders on behalf of the corporation, but they are NOT able to view the Corporation Orders tab in the Market window unless I ALSO give them the Accountant role. This is just so, so dumb. If I want people to be able to trade for the corp then that's all I want them to do--but they should be able to see what orders other traders in the corp have posted without being handed a bunch of additional permissions that really have nothing to do with posting buy/sell orders.

Clicking on the Auditing tab immediately brings up the YOU STILL HAVE TO PICK A MEMBER prompt. Well, duh--I just got to this tab and haven't had a chance to do anything yet! Please fix this.

The Decorations tab should be renamed to Medals since that's what they actually are, and it should allow the following:

  • awarding one medal to multiple people at the same time
  • awarding one medal to members of the same alliance
  • awarding one medal to pilots outside the alliance, with their ability to accept/deny
  • ability to edit existing medal name and descriptions, specifically to correct typos
  • ability to delete existing medals if they have never been awarded to anyone
  • ability for CEO to hide existing medals from the list of available medals if they have previously been awarded (so existing awardees don't lose them) so as to prevent them from continuing to be used
  • improve loading time as well as how this portion of the interface displays current recipients of each medal


Improved graphics, colors, etc for medal design would be nice too.

Continued next post...
Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#158 - 2014-12-18 04:40:38 UTC
STANDINGS TAB
Please add "Date Added" and "Added By" columns on the Corporate Contacts tab so I and the people with the ability to set standings can see at a glance when standings were added and who did it. Labels are a good start to being able to track the reason the standing was added, but it would be nice if the labels or an equivalent kind of field was visible to regular corp members so they know why, too. Please ensure labels (or future iterations of labels) are a 'set once and forget it' thing--I hate setting them and then coming back a few days later to see that only some of them stuck.

If someone other than me sets a new standing or amends an existing one, as CEO I want to be automatically notified about that. Actually, I would really like it if everyone in the corporation (or alliance, if it's an alliance-level standing) was automatically notified about any standings changes no matter who makes the change--this would save having to send mails or make forum posts.

Please also add a way for a Corporation to automatically draw its standings from the Alliance instead of having to set its own. For example, if I set Corporation X as +10 at my alliance level, I don't want my member CEOs to also have to set Corporation X as +10 so that Corporation X receives the right tax privilege at our POCOs. I'd rather have a checkbox that has the alliance +10 standing filter down automatically to the corporation level, and then have a checkbox on my POCOs that allow it to read my alliance standings rather than corporation standings. Having said this, if a corporation is drawing its standings from the alliance level it should still have the ability to set separate standings if it needs to--it just shouldn't allow duplicates (if the alliance has set +10, the member corp shouldn't be able to set the same entity as -10, that kind of thing).

WARS TAB
Please move the Kill Reports tab from this part of the interface, or have one here that is only specific to war kills/losses. All non-war kills/losses should not be listed under WARS.

POLITICS TAB
I'm really not a fan of the voting system, period, and would be happy if it got trashed. When I took over as CEO I discovered a swath of locked blueprints and had to endure the pain that was having them be unlocked so I could move them. That whole process and the massive amount of clicking required probably gave me carpal tunnel. Honestly, there should be better ways to deal with corporation issues than using a voting system--I think most corporations in EVE probably don't run that well on a democratic system anyway.

ASSETS TAB
Please give CEOs the ability to remotely trash items (whether just in an office, or impounded, or in lockdown), especially if they are old items located in places I cannot now get access to (such as player-owned stations in 0.0).

On the In Space tab, it's all well and good to see I have X number of POCOs in a given system but it would be infinitely more useful to know what planet and moon they are positioned at so I can tell the difference between them if I'm changing settings or transferring ownership.

ALLIANCES TAB
The alliance portion of the interface should be completely separate, with its own Alliance button on the UI. If a corporation is not a member of an alliance, that UI button should either be automatically hidden or should take them to an appropriate tab in People and Places to find an alliance they can join.

I want to have an Alliance ad so I can recruit new corporations just like I have a Corporation ad to recruit new players.

Bulletins: See comments under HOME TAB above.

Under the (alliance) Home tab, one of the Details attributes says "Dictatorial" with "No" under it. I dug around on Google about this once and to my knowledge, all alliances say this. If this is never going to be developed, please remove it. But since voting is godawful it would probably be better if this attribute was actually used for something and could be editable by the current executor.

Just like the Edit Corporation Details window, the Edit Alliance window is also not resizable and does not have rich text options on it.

I'd like to nominate the Rankings tab as another portion of the interface that should be moved to People and Places. Personally, I don't really care where/how my alliance ranks but if someone is curious about that stuff they are probably going to look in P&P.

The Applications tab needs to generate a notification to the alliance executor CEO at a minimum about new apps to the alliance. There is no category in either the old or the new notification system for this, and in writing this post I have discovered that an app to my alliance has been sitting on this tab for who knows how long that I didn't know about. There is no date for this app either so I have no idea when it was submitted. This is really, really bad!

The My Applications tab in this portion of the interface should be moved and renamed. After all, it's not "my" application--it's the corp's application to join another alliance. Just as how I think the corp interface should be about just the corp you're in right now, the alliance portion of the interface should also be just about the alliance you're in. Move this kind of thing to People and Places, or maybe even make a whole separate Recruitment window for corporation and alliance searching, etc.

On the Members tab, it would be nice to see when the members joined the alliance so I don't have to look it up on their Show Info windows individually.

Alliance Contacts: See comments under STANDINGS TAB above.

Continued next post...
Sakaane Eionell
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#159 - 2014-12-18 04:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Sakaane Eionell
Last but not least:

Bentakhar wrote:
Would be nice to have a little icon in corp chat (NPC corps excluded) with people's status:
>Available to chat
>AFK
>Unavailable
>Wife Aggro

+1 to this, but make it say "Spouse Aggro" since some of us are female and might have hubbies who don't play. :p

Quote:

Makari Aeron
B. have the corp hangars be able to have a description

Aryndel Vyst
Please allow for a "rejection evemail" if you reject a corp application. Either standard format like the welcome mail, or individual mails like a "rejection reason" box somewhere.

The use case is someone applies to corp but they screw something up with their application, and you want to tell them why. As it stands now you have to physically EVEmail them with the reason which is a lot of effort. Streamlining that process would be extremely helpful to corps that handle hundreds of applications a month.

Kaasboer
Corp contracts longer than 14 days. In fact, since your asking, how about sell/buy orders limited to your corp members if people so chooseĆ¾

+1 to these ideas.

Tycho Bheskagor wrote:
Corporate training certificates to skill into doctrine ships would be nice.

I love this idea.

TigerXtrm wrote:
5. Hanger logging. PLEASE. Whenever something is taken from a public corp hanger it needs to be logged just like on secure containers. Create a role for viewing the log, maybe even separate roles per hanger. Why? Right now people are able to take every single thing in a corp hanger and there is no way of figuring out who took it.

So much this. I would rather use containers to keep things organized rather than to micromanage who took what, if I could see that on the hangar level overall instead.


Thank you for reading! I'm all done now. :)
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#160 - 2014-12-18 04:51:27 UTC
little thing: "notes" tab for the corp show info window. Same functionality as for chars.

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